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Should cats be eradicated from Australia?
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stui magpie 

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:51 pm
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I put this poll on Facebook, with surprising results so far, so I thought I'd try it here as a comparison.


Cats are responsible for killing small reptiles, birds and native mammals. For every responsible cat owner who de sexes their cat and keeps it indoors, there are 99 who don't. feral and domestic cats are a massive problem. See link below

To eradicate cats means that existing pets must be desexed, any strays caught are destroyed, breeders are closed down and stock all desexed and a bounty put on feral/stray cats.

Those people who desperately desire the company of a cat, could purchase a desexed one from over seas, but other than that, Australia would be cat free.

Yes or no.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-04/cats-killing-one-million-birds-in-australia-every-day-estimates/9013960

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:53 pm
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Cats are very independent.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:33 pm
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Desexed, bell collar. Otherwise impounded and destroyed. Problem solved.

They are serial killers with pretty faces.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:03 pm
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Nope. Whats the point of existence without cats?

Having said that, if Australia can relax its quarantine restrictions on capybaras, I might reconsider.

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stui magpie 

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:17 pm
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Mugwump wrote:
Desexed, bell collar. Otherwise impounded and destroyed. Problem solved.


but as long as we have breeding stock and you can buy unsterilised ones, the problem remains

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They are serial killers with pretty faces.


Cats have probably done more environmental damage in Australia than any other introduced species, inc foxes, cane toads and rabbits, other than humans.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:19 pm
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David wrote:
Nope. Whats the point of existence without cats?


I don't get the attraction. I've managed to get by OK without them so far

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Having said that, if Australia can relax its quarantine restrictions on capybaras, I might reconsider.


They're apparently quite tasty.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:19 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Desexed, bell collar. Otherwise impounded and destroyed. Problem solved.


but as long as we have breeding stock and you can buy unsterilised ones, the problem remains


We own a cat (not my choice, a price I must pay for living with females in the house) and my experience is that if you equip the animal with a bell collar, theyre pretty hopeless at catching things unless the victim is already wounded. They work on speed and surprise. I mean the cat here, not the females in my house. I think.

I dont disagree with restricting purchases to desexed animals and keeping breeding cats on licensed terms. They are a menace to native wildlife.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:33 pm
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A brick would work better than a bell, but regardless you provide another reason I'm glad to remain single.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:36 pm
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my cat has one of those bell collars and still kills the same amount of birds. she just waits and pounces.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:38 pm
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They have a mind of their own.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:40 pm
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Are claws important in the context of their killing?

I looked up declawing on the internet and learnt that apparently it's regarded as cruelty and banned in some (many?) countries. The claim is it's more like amputating a digit than just clipping your nails.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:54 pm
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Declawing, debarking, tail docking, only $$%^%%$ humans would do that shit.

How about follow the rules, keep them inside or have a cat run? They eat the occasional bird? Ah well the rules of the jungle. I said to our first poodle one day, dream on, youll never catch one, got home to find a warm bird under my pillow! I kid you not! Smart buggers poodles!

Maybe we could desex, declaw, take out the frontal lobe on nasty minded humans, seems fair!

There should certainly be controls in place to keep the population to a reasonable level. Im not a cat person AT ALL, but Id never hurt one.

Remember not so long ago youd see dogs roaming the streets all the time, stricter regulations and fines mean its pretty rare now. Cant see why it cant be the same with cats.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:08 pm
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think positive wrote:
... They eat the occasional bird? Ah well the rules of the jungle. ...

If the rules of the jungle apply, then everyone should be happy if a dog kills a cat. And I don't think the cats actually eat the birds. They just kill for the pleasure of killing. Do they eat the mice they catch?

Oh, and it's not occasional, either... Apparently it's literally hundreds of thousands of birds per year in the US.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:11 pm
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Woods Of Ypres wrote:
my cat has one of those bell collars and still kills the same amount of birds. she just waits and pounces.


Perhaps ours is a bit thick. Its hard to tell with cats, they have such tiny brains. Never own anything with a brain cavity the size of a broad bean.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:22 pm
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eat the occasional bird? Try fkn lots.

law of the jungle? doesn't apply with an introduced predator.

This is what they can do. https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/gut-wrenching-research-shows-cats-threat-to-native-reptiles-20180623-p4zn9p.html

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