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LaurieHolden Aquarius

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:10 pm
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Will Kelly on Fox Footy now, playing in the U18 Championship- Vic Country vs Vic Metro. If we pass on this kid they'll torch Hines car after draft day.
Academy prospect Quaynor interviewed pre game is out injured. Maybe a 'strategic' injury pre draft, we don't want him playing too well before the draft.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:16 pm
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Viewed this lad joining in our preseason this year- has the tools to get the job done- is fast, mobile, athletic and strong- lock him in, Derek.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:39 pm
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warburton lad wrote:
Viewed this lad joining in our preseason this year- has the tools to get the job done- is fast, mobile, athletic and strong- lock him in, Derek.


fast, mobile and athletic? Shocked

Does he know who his father is, cos it can't be Craig Kelly. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:11 pm
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Video from Sunday of his Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5DXk3vupNU

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Pies2016 



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:08 pm
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Watched the game. Thought he was ok but Vic country were pretty poor going forward, so Kellys day was fairly easy. He kicked out a bit and he is also a big roost of the footy amongst his other qualities.

The likely final will be Vic metro and S A. Would be a great test for Kelly if he spends any time on Lukosuis. Will be a great game to watch with this years S A talent being their best representation in years. ( S As Lukosuis, Rankin and Rozee will all be top 10 in this draft )
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:11 am
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I think his form may have dipped a bit. Hes been in Cal Towmey's U18 AA team most of the year but dropped out a few weeks ago and not made it back.
Isaac is in and has been all year.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:12 am
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Pies2016 wrote:
Watched the game. Thought he was ok but Vic country were pretty poor going forward, so Kellys day was fairly easy. He kicked out a bit and he is also a big roost of the footy amongst his other qualities.

The likely final will be Vic metro and S A. Would be a great test for Kelly if he spends any time on Lukosuis. Will be a great game to watch with this years S A talent being their best representation in years. ( S As Lukosuis, Rankin and Rozee will all be top 10 in this draft )

Good. Play Kelly on Lukosuis. Lukosuis will thrash him. We then pick up Kelly with a fifth round draft pick (and Carlton stays above Brisbane on the ladder meaning Lukosuis can have his football career wrecked by having to play for a Queensland team).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:15 am
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MJ23 wrote:
I think his form may have dipped a bit. Hes been in Cal Towmey's U18 AA team most of the year but dropped out a few weeks ago and not made it back.
Isaac is in and has been all year.

Isaac is the worry. Can he stay injured or can we tell him to hold back a bit because he's playing too well at U18 level.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:08 pm
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Pies2016 wrote:
Watched the game. Thought he was ok but Vic country were pretty poor going forward, so Kellys day was fairly easy. He kicked out a bit and he is also a big roost of the footy amongst his other qualities.

The likely final will be Vic metro and S A. Would be a great test for Kelly if he spends any time on Lukosuis. Will be a great game to watch with this years S A talent being their best representation in years. ( S As Lukosuis, Rankin and Rozee will all be top 10 in this draft )

Good. Play Kelly on Lukosuis. Lukosuis will thrash him. We then pick up Kelly with a fifth round draft pick (and Carlton stays above Brisbane on the ladder meaning Lukosuis can have his football career wrecked by having to play for a Queensland team).


I like your thinking. We are certainly going to need some creative accountancy over trade period if we are going to land both Quaynor and Kelly without chopping up our first round pick on them. Im sure that thread is to follow later in the year.

Kelly is an interesting story, as recently as 12 months ago, he wasnt really highly regarded as a TAC U18 C H F.
This year the Chargers trialled him at C H B and he has really developed quickly in that role. Like most sports, when you have a sharp development curve, you always flatten out for a period before the next level of improvement kicks in.
His has all the athletic attributes for the modern game. Good skills but needs to improve overhead ( and probably why he was trialled in the back line )
Throw in our father son discount and we would be crazy not to match the first bid that he attracts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:19 pm
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Good. Play Kelly on Lukosuis. Lukosuis will thrash him. We then pick up Kelly with a fifth round draft pick (and Carlton stays above Brisbane on the ladder meaning Lukosuis can have his football career wrecked by having to play for a Queensland team).


Or Lukosuis can go to Carlton and have his football career wrecked by having to play for them too.

He'd only stay at a Queensland team for the obligatory two years anyway, if he has any bonafide career aspirations.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:05 pm
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Jon Ralph writes:
Will Kelly says following the footsteps of his father as a Collingwood player would be a childhood dream

Kelly is a 193 cm key defender who impressed last Sunday and has played key forward for Scotch College

Goes on to talk about the pros & cons of his pathway to us (not enlightening)

Other clubs might bid but his athleticism and room for improvement make him more draft able than brother Jake

We could do with that type of player who I would hope doesnt go the Darcy Moore way (sick bay clogger)

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BazBoy wrote:
Jon Ralph

We could do with that type of player who I would hope doesnt go the Darcy Moore way (sick bay clogger)


Sick-bay clogger? WTF? Thats absurdly harsh.

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watt price tully wrote:
BazBoy wrote:
Jon Ralph

We could do with that type of player who I would hope doesnt go the Darcy Moore way (sick bay clogger)


Sick-bay clogger? WTF? Thats absurdly harsh.


It is.... but I found myself nodding.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:21 am
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Pies2016 wrote:
BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Pies2016 wrote:
Watched the game. Thought he was ok but Vic country were pretty poor going forward, so Kellys day was fairly easy. He kicked out a bit and he is also a big roost of the footy amongst his other qualities.

The likely final will be Vic metro and S A. Would be a great test for Kelly if he spends any time on Lukosuis. Will be a great game to watch with this years S A talent being their best representation in years. ( S As Lukosuis, Rankin and Rozee will all be top 10 in this draft )

Good. Play Kelly on Lukosuis. Lukosuis will thrash him. We then pick up Kelly with a fifth round draft pick (and Carlton stays above Brisbane on the ladder meaning Lukosuis can have his football career wrecked by having to play for a Queensland team).


I like your thinking. We are certainly going to need some creative accountancy over trade period if we are going to land both Quaynor and Kelly without chopping up our first round pick on them. Im sure that thread is to follow later in the year.

Kelly is an interesting story, as recently as 12 months ago, he wasnt really highly regarded as a TAC U18 C H F.
This year the Chargers trialled him at C H B and he has really developed quickly in that role. Like most sports, when you have a sharp development curve, you always flatten out for a period before the next level of improvement kicks in.
His has all the athletic attributes for the modern game. Good skills but needs to improve overhead ( and probably why he was trialled in the back line )
Throw in our father son discount and we would be crazy not to match the first bid that he attracts.


It's issues like this that make me appreciate the tough job that the recruiters have. The physical changes that occur in growing boys mean that the one who is a superstar at 15 can be over the hill by the time he is 17 and the 17 year old that is dominating in the TAC won't be good enough to get onto an AFL list. The 18 year old low draft pick list clogger may develop into a superstar.

All we really know is how these boys play at one particular point of their development. We don't know how they are going to develop in the future. In cricket a good example is Steve Smith. I thought he was just a crap leg spinner when I first saw him but he soon became something very different.

The other thing we don't know is how the other recruiters rate Kelly and Quaynor.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:08 pm
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Yes a bit harsh on Moore but frustration led me to a poor choice of words

Its just that this soft tissue onset we keep having and the players it re occurs to create,s a state of fractured team planning going forward

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