Tommy Robinson arrested and jailed

[stui magpie]

[Pies4shaw]

It happens that we have the same view of this because we have each read Borrie on Contempt and managed to work out that Borrie wasn�t an LGBTI Socialist Conspirator Pushing A Barrow. Beyond that, any resemblances are superficial.

[David]

[watt price tully]

[HAL]

Why now? Oh yeah, we were talking about that latte .

[thesoretoothsayer]

Douglas Murray putting the Robinson affair in context:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/tommy-robinson-grooming-gangs-britain-persecutes-journalist/

[Mugwump]

^ The usual precise, fearless assessment from the redoubtable Douglas Murray. Thank goodness for him. Good link soretooth.

[stui magpie]

[Mugwump]

^ he�s a working class man without a great deal of education who struggles to fight against the powerful conventional forces of the new establishment, who want to silence him. He makes many mistakes, and this was one. But his instincts, though crude, seem to me relatively sane compared to many of those who are better educated and cleverer at exploiting the law to harm him and his class.

Murray - who shares his insight but is blessed with whip-smart intellect and eloquence as well - summed him up well.

[David]

Hey, let�s not put this guy on a pedestal. He�s just another one of those guys who hates �Muzzies� and wants to keep �England for the English�. The child-rape thing is just a convenient cause to latch onto � does anyone think he�d be outside the court if the defendants were white Anglos? Does anyone get involved with an organisation like the English Defence League (the sort of group that even Pauline Hanson would probably think are a bit much) if they�re not a mouth-frothing racist? (But let�s applaud him for not wanting to gas the Jews, or resurrect the Third Reich, or something. ) This courtroom �reporting� thing is just like Donald Trump bringing family members of people killed by illegal immigrants on stage at a rally. The agenda is so absurdly blatant that one would be laughing if one could stop crying.

I support his freedom of speech and would be very concerned if it seemed he was being unjustly sentenced, but it�s still a worry that skinheads like him (in all but actual haircut), Milo, Hanson and so on have started to become such mainstream figures. Their goal is to divide society, to keep outsiders out, and to revive some brand of aggressive nationalism. There�s nothing to give even qualified applause for here.

[Pi]

^ if the defendants were white anglos like Rolf Harris or large numbers of the Catholic church his voice would be drowned out by everyone else. The media and police have avoided dealing with the issue because they fear being called racist, that,s why it all got so bad. This is a failure of policing and the public service as much as the alleged perpetrators.

Australia had a similar issue a few years ago: this is the judges perspective a few years down the track.

https://www.afr.com/news/the-rape-trials-australia-cant-forget-20180222-h0whuf

Due to better policing and education it hasn't happened at that level again.
When that happens the Tommy Robinson's and pedestals to put them on disappear.

[stui magpie]

Really David? Sounds like typical cant to me. The "Muzzies" seem to be a protected species by the left which means anyone who calls out this kind of behaviour is attacked as racist, nazi, facist etc.

Reverse the question. If it was another immigrant group systematically organising rape of minors, would you attack this person so strongly for trying to bring attention to it?

[Mugwump]

^ so you disagree with him then, David ? He�s no hero of mine, but compared to Antifa he�s (relatively) law-abiding. And at least he is expressing a necessary contrary view against the many leftist apologists for the most gay-hating, anti-feminist, terrorism-associated, theocratic, mainstream religion in the world (cue the moral equivalencers between Western Christianity and Islam, based on the 15th century or obscure Xtian sects).

He�s a working class lad who often lacks the accommodating demeanor and slaloming sophistication we demand from people who defend traditional values and our cultural values. For his education and background, however, his attempt to make a difficult argument against the tide of hypocritical conventional opinion is worthy of some respect, even if he deserved to go down for last week�s flouting of the law.

[stui magpie]

[HAL]

I see. expressing a necessary contrary view against the many leftist apologists for the most gay-hating anti-feminist terrorism-associated theocratic mainstream religion in the world cue the moral equivalencers between Western Christianity and Islam based on the 15th century or obscure Xtian sects is expressing a necessary contrary view against the many leftist apologists for the most gay-hating anti-feminist terrorism-associated theocratic mainstream religion in the world cue the moral equivalencers between Western Christianity and Islam based on the 15th century or obscure Xtian sects ?