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Pies2016 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:38 pm
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I’m not on here to be a Buckley apologist and I also understand this topic doesn’t address the previous few years of ongoing poor performances.

However, in my opinion, that side we trotted out last night would have been lucky to beat anyone, regardless of who coached it.
We possibly would have stood a chance against a couple ( other ) cellar dwellers but that’s about it.
Throw in a beaten mid field ( as in when they don’t have the ball ) and that’s about right for a result.

Simply, the current list isn’t good enough but whoever we want to blame for that is another topic.
I’m not against changing the coach sometime soon but to think that will be the immediate panacea to all our ails, is delusional.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:45 pm
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masoncox 

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:46 pm
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The clear answer is that team was the team Buckley built.
As opposed to the gold standard team that he inherited.
It might take a good coach a few years to turn this ship around.
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WarrenerraW 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:52 pm
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The longer this goes on, the longer it will take the next coach to make us successful again.
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Doc63 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:54 pm
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No, but a new coach (and President), will give us a new direction.
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dalyc Scorpio



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:59 pm
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Clarkson wouldn't have won if he was the Pies coach last night. We were putrid.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:08 pm
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dalyc wrote:
Clarkson wouldn't have won if he was the Pies coach last night. We were putrid.


Yes but if they were both coaching the exact same team I suspect most of us would accept Clarkson would win out.

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scoobydoo 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:19 pm
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WarrenerraW wrote:
The longer this goes on, the longer it will take the next coach to make us successful again.


I disagree on this point. In my opinion the longer
This goes on, the more top ten draft picks the next coach will
Have. It’s not all bad
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GreekLunatic 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:29 pm
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If Clarkson coached us he would have killed half the team
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doriswilgus 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:38 pm
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In a word:Yes.
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BazBoy 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:39 pm
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Yes longer we stay status quo with out improvement some of our fierce rival for more flags built and strengthen

Year was 1958 and we snag a flag to have 13 —rivals like Carlton & Essendon
sat on a paltry 8 flags

Time moved on and on till 2018 where we moved to 15 —rivals like Carlton & Essendon now sit on 16

As these two build they move further ahead as we stagnate

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WarrenerraW 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:00 pm
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scoobydoo wrote:
WarrenerraW wrote:
The longer this goes on, the longer it will take the next coach to make us successful again.


I disagree on this point. In my opinion the longer
This goes on, the more top ten draft picks the next coach will
Have. It’s not all bad


But knowing our luck, they'll find a way to change the rules to prevent us from obtaining x amount of high draft picks, sort of like what they did in 2011 when they introduced the sub rule to curb the number of interchanges that were being made to curb our influence on the game.
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K 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:20 pm
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GreekLunatic wrote:
If Clarkson coached us he would have killed half the team

Are you claiming that the other half would have survived by being invisible?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:22 pm
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WarrenerraW wrote:
scoobydoo wrote:
WarrenerraW wrote:
The longer this goes on, the longer it will take the next coach to make us successful again.


I disagree on this point. In my opinion the longer
This goes on, the more top ten draft picks the next coach will
Have. It’s not all bad


But knowing our luck, they'll find a way to change the rules to prevent us from obtaining x amount of high draft picks, sort of like what they did in 2011 when they introduced the sub rule to curb the number of interchanges that were being made to curb our influence on the game.

Without going over the entire list for when they were drafted by doing some basic research.
I count 15 first round draft picks on our list from memory.
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K 



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:27 pm
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Doc63 wrote:
No, but a new coach (and President), will give us a new direction.

Relatively speaking, I think a new president is arguably easier to accomplish, safer (in terms of possible unintended side-effects), and more urgently needed.
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