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BEAMER09
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| swoop42 wrote: | Two year period?
If we fail to make finals again then surely this time the President is out of excuses to keep him.
As it is Ed got lucky with the Richmond result, it saved the bacon of Buckley and Ed ever the salesman had something to sell.
We've been sold Richmond example and if it fails to deliver positive results then it's time to purchase a new coach. |
Richmond is not a good example and if based on this it's complete rubbish - why?
1. Players loved playing for Hardwick - unlike what we heard at Pieland
2. We don't have a Rance
3. We don't have a Dusty
4. We don't have a Riewoldt
5. We don't have forward pressure
6. We don't have a settled backline
5. We don't have developed young players
6. And their game plan and execution much better than ours
therefore Richmond are hardly a good example...
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BEAMER09
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| BEAMER09 wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | Two year period?
If we fail to make finals again then surely this time the President is out of excuses to keep him.
As it is Ed got lucky with the Richmond result, it saved the bacon of Buckley and Ed ever the salesman had something to sell.
We've been sold Richmond example and if it fails to deliver positive results then it's time to purchase a new coach. |
Richmond is not a good example and if based on this it's complete rubbish - why?
1. Players loved playing for Hardwick - unlike what we heard at Pieland
2. We don't have a Rance
3. We don't have a Dusty
4. We don't have a Riewoldt
5. We don't have forward pressure
6. We don't have a settled backline
7. We don't have developed young players
8. And their game plan and execution much better than ours
therefore Richmond are hardly a good example... |
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If there was ever a coach to come to Collingwood for me it would be Luke Hodge - Leigh Matthews Mark 2.
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| ^ Not straight into the senior job. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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| What were we talking about again? |
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What'sinaname 
Joined: 29 May 2010
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Any coach, just get anyone who will tag Mitchell and Ablett.
54 possessions is just embarrassing.
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| BEAMER09 wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | ...
As it is Ed got lucky with the Richmond result, it saved the bacon of Buckley and Ed ever the salesman had something to sell.
We've been sold Richmond example and if it fails to deliver positive results then it's time to purchase a new coach. |
Richmond is not a good example and if based on this it's complete rubbish - why?
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therefore Richmond are hardly a good example... |
There are numerous other reasons Richmond is a bad example. One is that they had a great deal of luck. I'd be far more surprised if they defend their premiership this year than if they miss the eight completely.
Another reason is that Richmond actually did at least a few sensible things that our club has so far failed to do. If anyone at our club wishes to talk about Richmond, he'd better be ready to explain what's happening with at least those changes at Richmond that were also recommended by the Murphy review. |
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ThePieMind
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
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Guys, The succession plan WAS successful as we won a flag.
Part 2 never commenced because MM dumped us.
So the reality is we were left with a completely unscripted scenario - ie Buckley without MM's support and a hostile core of senior players.
All that said - I think if a well credentialed coach was available then quite rightly Bucks would not have been reappointed
PS: Buckley did offer to allow MM to continue to coach but Hierarchy said no. |
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K
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| ThePieMind wrote: | ...
PS: Buckley did offer to allow MM to continue to coach but Hierarchy said no. |
Really??? Please elaborate! |
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swoop42 
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008
Location: The 18
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| MagpieBat wrote: | | The Dear Leader wrote: | | "The only time that you sack a coach is if you've lost the players completely or there is something untoward that needs to be addressed". |
August 24th, 2017.
The players love him, which is what happens when you recruit players who worship you for what you accomplished as a player. And if four years of not playing in the finals was not enough to be considered "something untoward", then five years isn't likely to be either.
There is also the small matter of the contract until the end of 2019.
No, we're stuck with him. |
Caro on the ABC was alluding to the fact Buckley might have a clause in his contract he must reach to trigger that second year.
If he doesn't then just pay him out and pay the tax if required.
I know I was fairly confident of the club parting ways with him last season also, hell Buckley expected it to if we failed to play finals but at present I sense a real change in mood on the boards and people who rarely post are doing just that and expressing there anger or those who have tried to remain hopeful have reached the point they just want to see positive results flow and are prepared for life after Buckley now.
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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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The Swap from MM and Bucks has Destroyed the Club. Come from being best Team in the League with MM into nothing more then a Joke under Bucks.
ED head should really need to Role
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die4pies
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At a club that delights in turning it's back on it's own history (or re-writing it to suit themselves) we are doomed to repeat it.
1950 - Bervyn Woods coaching debacle split the club and destroyed life long friendships for some very senior players/officials
1963 - Sherrin v Galbally Civil War Part II
1974 - Ern Clarke - just a total brain fart.
1982 - Hafey/Hickey/Moore and the "New" Magpies in Civil War Part III
1993 - The recruitment of N Buckley from the Bears split the club internally and, as a long term result, effectively gifted Hawthorn the competition's best recruiter.
2009 - "The Succession"...was an initial success because old plodder MM suddenly had some serious writing on his coaches box wall and his long time lover had found a new beau....of course he would win a premiership. 
What disaster awaits us next?....we do this crap roughly every 10 years.
(Note: Ed managed to fortify himself from what should have been another revolution when he deserted Vic Park and surrounded himself with Yes-men...magpies always come home to roost though...even if you move their home)
PS. Ed and Euge should get the $20m Pubs disaster on that list. Ed literally blew the entire football department budget on a failed investment because he took off to Sydney to bone Channel Dots. Not to mention Waislitz's actual job is as a PROPERTY INVESTMENT ADVISOR.....Some advisor....accountable? ...so 2005 - Pubs...burp!
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K
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| die4pies wrote: | At a club that delights in turning it's back on it's own history (or re-writing it to suit themselves) we are doomed to repeat it.
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1993 - The recruitment of N Buckley from the Bears split the club internally and, as a long term result, effectively gifted Hawthorn the competition's best recruiter.
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I was going to say: yes, bad history keeps repeating itself...
But then I saw your 1993 comment. How so? And do you not think it ended up well to have recruited Buckley, even if it meant Starcevich was pushed out. (I assume you're not upset about Troy Lehmann being traded.) |
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doriswilgus
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Location: the great southern land
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^^^
| Craig Little wrote: | ...
Although McGuire is obliged to utter miles of stuff like this, you sense he is a man whose search for the truth is impeded by an inability to detach himself from the ego; that is to say an inability to recognise where the chutzpah ends and a bruisingly comic forward line begins.
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Ouch... Craig may find himself dead to Eddie... |
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