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MatthewBoydFanClub 



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:47 am
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masoncox wrote:
I am for giving the boys more time...all for it.
But the question is .....what do you see....because I don't see much at this point.
Legit question.


I didn't see much in Heath Shaw at the same point in his career as Callum Brown (short, slow etc.).
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Seems reluctant to kick the thing, and when he did, not a great kick unfortunately. Hopefully it was a once off and not the standard.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:20 am
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
masoncox wrote:
I am for giving the boys more time...all for it.
But the question is .....what do you see....because I don't see much at this point.
Legit question.


I didn't see much in Heath Shaw at the same point in his career as Callum Brown (short, slow etc.).


IIRC Heath had an amazing debut against the doggies and oicked up 20-odd possies.

Looked a player form the get go.

I hope Callum comes good- but he seems fumbly and rushed- likely needs time to adjust- but seems to be trying too hard to do the right thing rather than playing on instinct as Heater did/does

This is the biggest problem most of our players have
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:59 am
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masoncox wrote:
I am for giving the boys more time...all for it.
But the question is .....what do you see....because I don't see much at this point.
Legit question.


Yep, legit question. I need to clarify that Iím not saying he is going to make it but I can promise you itís way to early to make the call. He will never be a superstar but he looks like he wants to succeed and thatís a good start.
Take a quick glance at the draft he figured in. Other than the first three picks and Luke Ryan as a mature age pick, there isnít much else to have made an impression yet.
He reminds me of Caleb Daniel, the one most people criticised the dogs for investing a draft pick on. Too small and canít kick over a jam tin. Heís now a premiership player and in their best 22. Daniel comes with a bit more poise with ball in hand than Brown but he will improve that area as he adjusts to the tempo.
Also the modern high pressure, retain the ball in the forward line suits him.
He wants the ball, heís couragous and seems tough like his old man.
And letís not forget, he did cop glandular fever in his first preseason. Thatís can knock you around for many months.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:01 am
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masoncox wrote:
I am for giving the boys more time...all for it.
But the question is .....what do you see....because I don't see much at this point.
Legit question.


Yep, legit question. I need to clarify that Iím not saying he is going to make it but I can promise you itís way to early to make the call. He will never be a superstar but he looks like he wants to succeed and thatís a good start.
Take a quick glance at the draft he figured in. Other than the first three picks and Luke Ryan as a mature age pick, there isnít much else to have made an impression yet.
He reminds me of Caleb Daniel, the one most people criticised the dogs for investing a draft pick on. Too small and canít kick over a jam tin. Heís now a premiership player and in their best 22. Daniel comes with a bit more poise with ball in hand than Brown but he will improve that area as he adjusts to the tempo.
Also the modern high pressure, retain the ball in the forward line suits him.
He wants the ball, heís couragous and seems tough like his old man.
And letís not forget, he did cop glandular fever in his first preseason. Thatís can knock you around for many months.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:03 am
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Do you think he will get the ball heís couragous and seems tough like his old man .
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:58 pm
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Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:12 pm
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Mugwump wrote:
Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:11 pm
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masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!


Then maybe you should also criticise the ones who elevated him at Vic Metro level and then at the All Australian level
You may also want to criticise those at the Kangas who selected him first at around pick 40 odd.
Iím not sure how many people have to tell you and anybody else who wants to judge a 2016 draftee, itís to early to make a decision yet.
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The dribbling clowns on here really make my day... seriously, the pathetic dribble that comes from some individuals, who claim to support our great club, entertains me no end.

Rowdy debuted around the same age as his young fella, didn't set the world on fire... was given time, to learn, to grow with the side and get the feel for the game.
I suspect Callum will do the same.

Gav didn't have the keyboard warriors, criticizing every, kick, every move OR every mistake he may have made.... 3 years later, he was an instrumental part in one of the most famous premiership victories ever seen!

But we didn't have the internet... did we Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:33 pm
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masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!


I didnít outsource my opinion, of course. I said it is way too early to tell. To answer your question, he has played 5 games and average 14 possessions. Against Port Adelaide, a game I attended, he was one of the reasons we made a surge after half time, extracting several centre clearances in his second game. He has not set the world on fire, but he sure as hell showed some in and under grit. And, of course, heís got footballing genes to spare.

Oh, and, er, failing to balance your relentless negativity with some positive observations is not a wise move on a blogging site.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:03 am
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Mugwump wrote:
masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!


I didnít outsource my opinion, of course. I said it is way too early to tell. To answer your question, he has played 5 games and average 14 possessions. Against Port Adelaide, a game I attended, he was one of the reasons we made a surge after half time, extracting several centre clearances in his second game. He has not set the world on fire, but he sure as hell showed some in and under grit. And, of course, heís got footballing genes to spare.

Oh, and, er, failing to balance your relentless negativity with some positive observations is not a wise move on a blogging site.

So he has shown some in and under grit ...true.
But is that it?
Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:23 pm
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masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
masoncox wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Way too early to tell. Good judges who have seen a lot more footballers than Iíve had hot breakfasts saw enough in him to elevate him to several AFL games in his first year. That seems promising enough at this stage. Heís about the same height as Tony Shaw, who would still have been a star in todayís game.

Maybe the ones who elevated him thought it was a good idea to sign Mayne to a four year deal.
Outsourcing your opinion isn't a wise move on a blogging site.
The question I asked was ...what aspect of him playing footy that you like? I have seen dozens of players in their first year and a bit that I liked what I saw. In Callum Brown I have seen nothing of interest. Now the guy must be given a decent chance ...at least 3 or 4 years to show his worth so i definitely want him on our list.
But I just want to know what have you actually seen that took your interest!


I didnít outsource my opinion, of course. I said it is way too early to tell. To answer your question, he has played 5 games and average 14 possessions. Against Port Adelaide, a game I attended, he was one of the reasons we made a surge after half time, extracting several centre clearances in his second game. He has not set the world on fire, but he sure as hell showed some in and under grit. And, of course, heís got footballing genes to spare.

Oh, and, er, failing to balance your relentless negativity with some positive observations is not a wise move on a blogging site.

So he has shown some in and under grit ...true.
But is that it?
Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.


Having an influence on the game in your second outing is quite something, Iíd have thought. I recall Pendleburys first few games. Nothing that special. I looked up his stats, and in his first 9 games he averaged 12 disposals a game. So, itís just too early to tell. CBís issue is that heís so damn short, but then so was Tony Shaw, so is Blair. Time will tell which of these two CB turns out to be more like.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:29 pm
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Some footy genes is the other on the list....hardly a plug for the guy.

Nicksters, how great an advantage (in football terms) do you think it is for an aspiring AFL footballer to be the son of a former AFL player?
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^ depends on the athleticism of the mother. Genes and upbringing are a pretty good start on the road to success. It might be a bit harder for .josh .daicos, though. When your dad was an utter gun and an icon of the game, it must get a bit daunting. It has certainly not hurt Silvagni, Ablett, and Hawkins and Viney. But then, I played junior football with Ron Barassi junior (interesting name, which says something about dad) and though he was a good enough kid, he was clearly weighed down by the expectation. Like life, itís probably a lottery, but those with footballing success in the family start with more tickets than most.
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