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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:19 am
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Are you still located in Liverpool?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:56 pm
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Now the person wasn't Banaraby's partner whilst he was having sex with her when she was his staffer, but now she is pregnant she is. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing


Is this obscurantism, or is it just a reflection of the fact that our rules about domestic partnership, in the age of widespread de facto cohabitation, are pretty arcane and ambiguous (as perhaps they must be)?

If you have sex once with your housemate, are you partners? If you and your housemate sleep with each other casually but don't consider each other boyfriend/girlfriend, are you partners? I'm guessing for these purposes, the issues relate to things like nepotism and special treatment, and there may indeed be some things to look at there if Joyce and Campion were already in a sexual relationship when she left his office (which one tends to presume is the case, given the timeline). I expect it's a breach of a code of conduct to employ your partner in your office; but what if they already have the job before you get together? And, again, who decides at what point someone you have sex with becomes your partner?

If we're talking about the law, then the law needs to be clear about what it's referring to. 'Partner', therefore, probably means what 'de facto partner' means under law: someone you've cohabited with and had a sexual relationship with for a year. I hope that any other intended meaning is clarified; if not, perhaps it's about time that it should be.
Social security are busting a lot of single mothers who have a man in their lives. I am sure they can't use the "I'm only bonking him" as defence. Twp sets of rules.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:21 pm
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If they live together, they're partners.

if you live with your spouse but are rooting someone else on the side, the latter person isn't your partner. Two people in an exclusive relationship who don't live together, can claim to be in a relationship but as they don't cohabit I don't believe they'd meet the criteria.

On David's example, 2 house mates who maintain separate rooms, live separate lives but are occasional F buddies, that get's Gray.

The single mum analogy doesn't work as barnarnaby wasn't living with her

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:25 pm
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The single mum analogy doesn't work as barnarnaby wasn't living with her


It's just a Bananarby Wannabe Analogy?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:00 am
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stui magpie wrote:
If they live together, they're partners.

if you live with your spouse but are rooting someone else on the side, the latter person isn't your partner. Two people in an exclusive relationship who don't live together, can claim to be in a relationship but as they don't cohabit I don't believe they'd meet the criteria.

On David's example, 2 house mates who maintain separate rooms, live separate lives but are occasional F buddies, that get's Gray.

The single mum analogy doesn't work as barnarnaby wasn't living with her
Apparently he has been and was.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-13/canberras-other-office-affair-remains-shrouded-in-mystery/9434424?pfmredir=sm

More double standards.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:26 pm
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Government should be Running the Country the anything with this Shit
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:02 pm
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^ yes Dave. But the media run the government and they can sell this stuff far more easily than plans for the Marray-Darling.
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^ yes Dave. But the media run the government and they can sell this stuff far more easily than plans for the Marray-Darling.


Speaking of which, the Greens are frigging round with that again. If they block things in the senate I hope Vic and NSW go ahead and pull out of the arrangement and tell the Greens to go sit on a cactus

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:17 pm
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Speaking of which, the Greens are frigging round with that again. If they block things in the senate I hope Vic and NSW go ahead and pull out of the arrangement and tell the Greens to go sit on a cactus


Whatever did the poor cactus do to deserve that fate, Stui?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:58 pm
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^

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:52 am
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You just have to wait and Bananarby knowing he will put his foot in his mouth. He’s come out in Parliament and explained about his accommodation. He said he wasn’t and MP. It was offered free to help him and get this, “to get back on my feet”. Lmao

This totally contradicts his "friends" Greg Maguire's version that "Joyce rang him asking for a place to stay because he knows he owns a lot of residential buildings". I am waiting for a call of "Misleading Parliament" to be the next headline.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:07 pm
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The Rinehart 'award' he received a few months ago was dodgy and this is no less so. I find it astounding that any politician could think this is all fine – but then, we do live in a country with political donations.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:08 pm
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Culprit wrote:
You just have to wait and Bananarby knowing he will put his foot in his mouth. He’s come out in Parliament and explained about his accommodation. He said he wasn’t and MP. It was offered free to help him and get this, “to get back on my feet”. Lmao

This totally contradicts his "friends" Greg Maguire's version that "Joyce rang him asking for a place to stay because he knows he owns a lot of residential buildings". I am waiting for a call of "Misleading Parliament" to be the next headline.


Are you saying Greg slipped on a Bananarby spiel?
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K wrote:
Culprit wrote:
You just have to wait and Bananarby knowing he will put his foot in his mouth. He’s come out in Parliament and explained about his accommodation. He said he wasn’t and MP. It was offered free to help him and get this, “to get back on my feet”. Lmao

This totally contradicts his "friends" Greg Maguire's version that "Joyce rang him asking for a place to stay because he knows he owns a lot of residential buildings". I am waiting for a call of "Misleading Parliament" to be the next headline.


Are you saying Greg slipped on a Bananarby spiel?


Excellent.




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:16 pm
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You can't bang staffers under new code of conduct. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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