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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:39 pm
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As the Yanks are 2 weeks away from Stuffing the Whole Internet for Everyone.

So Rich will Take Over and Internet Will even get Worse then it is now

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/a375pb/how-america-rolling-back-net-neutrality-will-affect-the-rest-of-the-world?utm_source=vicetwitterca

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stui magpie 

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:09 pm
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yeah, Nah, maybe.

It's all about ISP's and bandwidth speed, within the US. Only impacts us if you're trying to access US sites, maybe.

We already have some of that happening here, ISP's who are also content providers can provide their streaming content to customers without impacting their data charges (if they have any).

the proposal isn't ideal, but hardly the end of the internet.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:13 pm
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When you think about it, there arenít a lot of sites youíd regularly use that arenít based in the US: Google, Gmail, Facebook, YouTube, Amazon, eBay, Wikipedia ... the list goes on. Iím not quite sure how extensive the impacts will be, but some of the stuff Iíve read in the past on this topic is pretty alarming.

I used to roll my eyes when (back in the George W Bush days) people said that everyone in the world should get a vote on the US presidency. With issues like this, I can now see that they kind of have a point. In the end itís a matter for US domestic politics and US regulators; we get to sit back and enjoy whatever shit they serve up.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:26 pm
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So lets say Amazon buys an ISP in the US and that ISP makes Amazon's streaming service mint and throttles the others.

If you want to use Netflix and the Amazon ISP throttles it, you go to a different ISP.

I'm not sure how we connect to the US, whether our ISP's have deals with US ISP's or how we travel through their network once we get there, so I'm not clear on the potential impact for us

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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:32 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
yeah, Nah, maybe.

It's all about ISP's and bandwidth speed, within the US. Only impacts us if you're trying to access US sites, maybe.

We already have some of that happening here, ISP's who are also content providers can provide their streaming content to customers without impacting their data charges (if they have any).

the proposal isn't ideal, but hardly the end of the internet.


Optus Throttle Downloading a Bit During Prime Time. As at Times I had to use my VPN to get Full Speeds

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:00 pm
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During primetime you've got more people competing for the same amount of bandwidth, so it's going to get slower
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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:13 pm
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So you want the Government that you don't trust to regulate the internet? 'Net Neutrality' is just more regulation of an industry that hasn't done anything to show that it needs it. Nothing more than power creep from the State using useful idiots to push it.

Keep the Government out of the Internet as long as we can.

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:26 pm
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^ I may not trust the government, but I trust industry even less.
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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:04 pm
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Wokko wrote:
So you want the Government that you don't trust to regulate the internet? 'Net Neutrality' is just more regulation of an industry that hasn't done anything to show that it needs it. Nothing more than power creep from the State using useful idiots to push it.

Keep the Government out of the Internet as long as we can.


Agree. The MPAA has Heavily Bribed the California Governor to try and get them Control over the Internet

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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:09 pm
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David wrote:
^ I may not trust the government, but I trust industry even less.


Then would you Trust with no one who works on it it not Trustworthty?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:38 am
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I can see the likes of Optus and Telstra creating pay TV style Internet packages, ie, $99 per month for a basic service, plus $25 for the multimedia pack (access to Youtube, Netflix), a social media pack for $30 giving access to Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp and so on.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:40 am
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What does it look like?
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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:51 pm
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Bucks5 wrote:
I can see the likes of Optus and Telstra creating pay TV style Internet packages, ie, $99 per month for a basic service, plus $25 for the multimedia pack (access to Youtube, Netflix), a social media pack for $30 giving access to Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp and so on.


That would not Shock Me and You probably won't be able to get Unlimited Data like you can now.

It just means more $$$ for them and that all they care about

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:35 pm
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DTM I do not fathom where you get the idea that this will make it for the rich. Have a look at the richest men in the world and Zuckerberg , Gates and a few others will be on it.

I get unlimited downlaod (but really not used much) for about 35.00 a month. It runs all the devices at once. The problem is the providers in Australia gouging the public. Closely linked if not the same as the pay tv and telcos.

Whilst a commission intp banks is wecome another one should be held into the information providers in Australia. But it won't happen because half the politicians go looking for board positions when they get the flick.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:22 am
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I reckon the Porn industry is the one thing that will fck them over. Pardon the pun.
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