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Magpietothemax 



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:54 pm
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Adam Treloar 3 Votes wrote:
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Where does your allegiance lie? You sound like a commie to me or perhaps an Isis sympathiser upset that the US (along with a coalition of other countries) has torpedoed your murderous caliphate. I’ll pass your details to the security hotline for surveillance.

My allegiance lies with Collingwood FC, and with the truth.
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^ Magpietothemax

you are such a simpleton I’m tipping your iq doesn’t hit double digits

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:59 pm
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Adam Treloar 3 Votes wrote:
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You are incredibly naive, where do you get your news from, Russia Today or the Isis channel?

There were wars in Middle East long before America along with a coalition of countries sought to replace dictatorships with democracy. Remember Iran v Iraq war, Iraq v Kuwait, Israel v Syria, Israel v Lebanon etc.

I notice you had no objection to the killing of thousands of American civilians during 9/11, and you only object when the Americans quite rightly invaded Afghanistan to put an end to the barbaric taliban who were not only ruining their own country but were protecting Al qaeda.

Where does your allegiance lie? You sound like an Isis sympathiser upset that the US (along with a coalition of other countries) has torpedoed your murderous caliphate. I’ll pass your details to the security hotline for surveillance.

It is disappointing to know that unfortunately Collingwood has fans like you.

It is rather disappointing to know that Collingwood has supporters like you, who simply do not have the will, or the capacity, to adopt any kind of critical thinking.
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You have been blocked so that I never have to read your terrorist propaganda again.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:28 pm
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Adam Treloar 3 Votes wrote:
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You have been blocked so that I never have to read your terrorist propaganda again.

Glad that you have blocked me. As for accusing me of terrorist propaganda,it simply reflects your mentality. Anyone who opposes the US led wars in the Middle East is a "terrorist propagandist" according to you. You are either for the US military onslaught, or you are terrorist. Black and white thinking in extreme, but nothing to do with Collingwood.
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Redlight wrote:

I find this viewpoint troubling. You're falling all over yourself to excuse barbaric acts on one side and demonising everything the other side does. So, by your reckoning the middle-east is a blameless victim and the west are all war-criminals?

The 9/11 attacks precede the war in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. The response by the west was not surprising and, in war, many innocent people will be killed. It has always been thus.

Should the west feel bad because we can use well equipped fighting forces in order to limit our own casualties? Should we not do that to make it 'fairer'?

If there is to be an ongoing threat to the 'western way of life' then I'm not feeling compelled to apologise for our defence of it.

Just take a moment to compare the relative freedoms and lifestyles of a typical middle-eastern society and a typical western one. I'm prepared to contend that western values and approaches, while not perfect, are far superior to the alternatives.

I don't understand the self-loathing.

Redlight, thankyou for your well measured response. I will just clarify a couple of points about my viewpoint for your consideration. "The West" are not all war criminals, because neither you nor I were responsible for launching a war based on lies about non-existent weapons of mass destruction. It was the governments who did so. The only war criminals I am referring to are the political figures in Parliament and in the US Congress who either willingly joined the war, or who supplied a cover for the criminality of those who did. There is absolutely no self=loathing in my attitude. The population at large bears no responsibility for the actions of the politicians.
Iraq did not pose any threat to Western civilization, any more than Kim Jong does today. How could these tiny, and impoverished countries, pose such a threat? Moreover, Iraq was not implicated in September 11 at all, but Saudi Arabia was.
The real aggressor is the US government, which represents the super wealthy in America. As for the relative freedoms in Western society compared with those in the Middle East, yes I agree Western society is still far more democratic. But then, how do you explain that Saudi Arabia is one of America's closest allies in the Middle east?
The aim of the American government has nothing to do with defending "democracy".
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:19 am
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Adam Treloar 3 Votes wrote:
Magpietothemax

You have been blocked so that I never have to read your terrorist propaganda again.

Glad that you have blocked me. As for accusing me of terrorist propaganda,it simply reflects your mentality. Anyone who opposes the US led wars in the Middle East is a "terrorist propagandist" according to you. You are either for the US military onslaught, or you are terrorist. Black and white thinking in extreme, but nothing to do with Collingwood.


I think you have confused the wars dude. The war in Iraq is the dubious one. you know, the one where the USA made up a story about WMD and used that as the cover to get rid of a dictator who had pulled a swifty on the then president's father (and the presidents father never really got over the shame of that so it was personal)!

On the other hand, Afghanistan had to be attacked in some capacity because we had to stop Al Qaeda who by any definition had committed an act of war. Could you imagine the world today if the USA accepted that bombing and allowed Osama Bin Laden to continue to take refuge in Afghanistan with his buds the taliban! The MCG would surely have been on their list of targets. you just know it. imagine if they chose to attack in 2010??? Blair might not be a premiership player!!!!

I think you'd get more sympathy if you were historically accurate.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:42 am
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The modern left
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Islamic fascists throwing gays off buildings. meh.
Trump tweeting about islamic fascists throwing gays off buildings. OMFG!!

Jews in Europe starting to be murdered again. meh.
Eddie making a jewish joke. OMFG!!


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What a load of codswallop this is.
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Magpietothemax wrote:
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I find it breathtakingly confusing that a person can take a video of his mates throwing a blindfolded homosexual off a building and more likely cheering him on, posting it to social media and then when someone else reuses that imagery ,showing the absolute barbarity of some people, they are called racist and some type of "Phobic' for showing a certain type of person being, in this case, homophobic,,but, because a christian, white man posts the same video he is called a racist???? Shocked Shocked Shocked Imagine if he was a Collingwood supporter as well,or Eddie???

Look the point is, who are the forces with power and who are those who have none? The US has destroyed the nation of Iraq, Libya and coming close with Syria. It has pulverised Iraq with devastating weapons, including depleted uranium and fuel air bombs, and most lately has been involved in mass civilian casualties in Mosul. And don't forget, the original pretext for starting the war (Iraq's weapons of mass destruction) is now known to be a total lie. US gunships destroyed a hospital in Afghanistan, incinerating at least 30 to 50 patients and doctors/nurses. It is the US unleashing massive firepower on to defenceless nations in the Middle East. This can only be justified by demonising/stigmatising the populations of the Middle east. Hence, Islamophobia, is encouraged by all Western governments, because it justifies their participation in US led wars. So ,you are shocked when a white Christian who posts the horrific murder of a homosexual by an islamic fundamentalist is denounced as a racist. I don't know if he is a racist, (probably he is), but more importantly, by posting such a video he is doing exactly what the war criminals in Washington (Democrat and Republican alike) would want. I am more shocked by the fact that there are not more videos being posted of US war crimes in Mosul, or Afghanistan. Oh wait, there was one man who did post such videos, Julian Assange. He was then demonised as a traitor for daring to expose the criminal violence of the US military in Iraq. Hopefully, you are just as shocked about what has happened to him as you are about the white Christian.

I personally couldn't G.A.F.R.A. about it."Hint" RA is Rats Ar##e!!! Shocked
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BazBoy wrote:
My comment was based on the television report,not Herald Sun website

The TV reporter remarked on complaints


Yes indeed, you've hit the problem nail on the head. TV is your source of information for your misplaced indignancy.

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Jezza wrote:
PC gone mad.


Get an Apple.

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BazBoy wrote:
This political correctness just seems never ending and although not related to Eddie,s situation it highlights the obvious agenda to change things

There now is a suggestion to change the cricket term batsman to bat person

Soon no ruck men ,just ruck person

Oh dear what got us to this point of human history


There you go again. Nonsense based on bullshit.

You spitting the dummy (did I use the noun advisedly?) and feeling outrage complaining about other people being outraged. Now that's ironic.

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[quote="E"][quote="Magpietothemax"][quote="Adam Treloar 3 Votes"]Magpietothemax


I think you have confused the wars dude. The war in Iraq is the dubious one. you know, the one where the USA made up a story about WMD and used that as the cover to get rid of a dictator who had pulled a swifty on the then president's father (and the presidents father never really got over the shame of that so it was personal)![\quote]
So you just lightly palm off Iraq as the "dubious " one?? A war that that has led to the deaths of over 1,000,000 people in Iraq who have died as a result? You admit that the US "made stuff up" to justify the Iraq war, a war that has led to civilian deaths of historic proportions.And you casually refer to this as the "dubious one" without even the slightest indignation, nor even the demand that those responsible for such a crime be held accountable. !??
[\quote] On the other hand, Afghanistan had to be attacked in some capacity because we had to stop Al Qaeda who by any definition had committed an act of war. Could you imagine the world today if the USA accepted that bombing and allowed Osama Bin Laden to continue to take refuge in Afghanistan with his buds the taliban! [\quote]
And who argued that Afghanistan had to be attacked to stop Al Quaida?
Why of course, it was none other than those who organized the war on Iraq. Why would you give any credibility to them on this, if you already know they lied about Iraq?
September 11 was not act of war, because it was not carried out by a sovereign nation, but by an organization.It was the US that carried out the act of war by attacking a sovereign nation - which had not attacked the US.
Did the war against Afghanistan destroy Al Quaida? No it did not. And it is pretty clear that the destruction of Al Quaida was actually not the main motivation of the US at all.
There are several ways to see this. Why does Saudi Arabia remain a close ally of the US, when it is well known that Al Quaida has its roots there?
And, did you know that the US has been arming Islamic fundamentalist forces in Syria in their attempt to overthrow Assad, and have been training and arming various offshoots of Al Quaida for this purpose? Hardly the actions of a government that aims to eradicate Al Quaida from the face of the planet.
[\quote]I think you'd get more sympathy if you were historically accurate.
[\quote] The irony in this comment is that it is not due to my historical inaccuracy, but rather due to my historical accuracy, that my comments are eliciting a hostile reaction from some.
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I wonder if Nicks has ever been on the agenda at the White House.
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