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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-would-have-taken-nathan-murphy-at-pick-six-if-not-for-jaidyn-stephenson-20171125-gzssxn.html
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-would-have-taken-nathan-murphy-at-pick-six-if-not-for-jaidyn-stephenson-20171125-gzssxn.html
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He's a wanker but Liam Pickering apparently believes Murphy was the steal of the draft.
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When was this exactly?
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He's a wanker but Liam Pickering apparently believes Murphy was the steal of the draft.


Murphy a wanker? Really?
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The kid looks like a classy player. Good disposal and well-balanced. Tall, can take a good mark, good at ground level and has good endurance. Looks like a footballer as opposed to athelee, and we sure need more of them.

He doesn't break lines, but not all players need to do that. I think he has the potential to play a variety of positions.

Like all the boys we recruited, they seem to be great kids.

Welcome to the Pies Nathan Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:23 am
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Bruce Gonsalves wrote:
swoop42 wrote:
He's a wanker but Liam Pickering apparently believes Murphy was the steal of the draft.


Murphy a wanker? Really?


I believe he means Pickering.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:54 am
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K wrote:
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Brett Anderson says we would taken Murphy IF Stephenson Failed his Medical Tests and Board did not Approve the Pick

https://twitter.com/BAndersonSEN/status/934193933961150469


If BA is correct, then we can think of Stephenson as being equivalent to our pick 39, which eases the pressure surrounding his selection a lot.

The two also ran the same 2km time at the Combine.

Fate seems to have made them interchangeable.


and that is precisely what the club WANTS you to think in the highly unlikely event, the heart issue becomes a problem.

If collingwood took Murphy at 6 when we could have gotten him at 39, then irrespective of our eye for talent, our drafting strategy would be so appalling that they all should be fired.

i dont like what they are saying about Murphy and 6. It makes me think they took a bigger gamble on stephenson than the facts suggest. otherwise why the need to go out with all of this con job bullshit to suck in the gullable fans.

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What do you want them to say? We wanted someone else but was left with this blonk. If I am gullible at least have the temerity to spell it right. It probably explains why you have only one letter. E G G H E A D is a bit long.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:01 am
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E wrote:
K wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:
Brett Anderson says we would taken Murphy IF Stephenson Failed his Medical Tests and Board did not Approve the Pick

https://twitter.com/BAndersonSEN/status/934193933961150469


If BA is correct, then we can think of Stephenson as being equivalent to our pick 39, which eases the pressure surrounding his selection a lot.
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Fate seems to have made them interchangeable.


and that is precisely what the club WANTS you to think in the highly unlikely event, the heart issue becomes a problem.

If collingwood took Murphy at 6 when we could have gotten him at 39, then irrespective of our eye for talent, our drafting strategy would be so appalling that they all should be fired.

i dont like what they are saying about Murphy and 6. It makes me think they took a bigger gamble on stephenson than the facts suggest. otherwise why the need to go out with all of this con job bullshit to suck in the gullable fans.


I take it you disliked the club's drafting decisions.

Your second sentence makes sense only if it was reasonable for them to foresee that he'd be available at 39. I doubt it was. It was a surprise to many. And even without major surprises, how can anyone accurately predict the selections of two whole rounds?

As for the con job conspiracy theory... Well, it's possible, but it'd have taken some effort. According to the conspiracy theory, they must have decided to make it more convincing by not putting it out there directly themselves, but instead by persuading BA et al. in the media that it's true. I think BA was emphatic in his belief.

Re. Stephenson, well, see discussion elsewhere on this forum.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:59 am
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ronrat wrote:
What do you want them to say? We wanted someone else but was left with this blonk. If I am gullible at least have the temerity to spell it right. It probably explains why you have only one letter. E G G H E A D is a bit long.

I posted in another thread, but why can't we be thankful that we got our guy who was rated by the experts between 15 - 30, at 39? We also got a guy at 6, who some thought could have gone number 1, except for his well publicised heart condition. So anyway you want to look at it, it seems a good outcome to me and our recruiting team should get a pat on the back.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:33 am
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Now that we recruited him, I've had the chance to speak to a couple of Dragons mates and they have added a bit to his story.
Apparently he carried an ankle injury and concussion into the combine and some were recommending that he shouldn't do the combine because he was always going to be drafted anyway.
There was a concern his combine results would only diminish his " package ". He chose to attend and took his chances and the results are there for all to see. I'm now only guessing here but I would suggest that he wasn't at 100% during the Combine.
The other thing that is very relevant is that he is very young in this draft.
Stephenson is 11 months older than him. His upside is considerable.
I feel confident, as long as he applies himself, we have picked up a real bargain.
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