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Wokko 
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Happy to see his motion on the victims of Communism was successful. Bernardi is setting himself up as Australia's Trump and if he can manage to learn to not have a political tin ear he'll have some success.
The Liberals have done a great job of going from a broad church party to a moderate centre-right pastel, stand for nothing party. I said they were losing Conservative support and would never manage to crowbar off enough centre leftists to make up for it. They're going to get destroyed at the next election, and God help Australia under Shorten. |
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David 
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Lol, did he really call for an annual day of commemoration? Culture wars, much?
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Wokko
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| There's been 100 Million dead in the name of that vile ideology, nothing to Lol about. |
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David
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Yeah, but the motivation’s pretty blatantly obvious, isn’t it? We don’t have an annual commemoration for victims of religion or victims of colonialism, do we?
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| Wokko wrote: | Happy to see his motion on the victims of Communism was successful. Bernardi is setting himself up as Australia's Trump and if he can manage to learn to not have a political tin ear he'll have some success.
The Liberals have done a great job of going from a broad church party to a moderate centre-right pastel, stand for nothing party. I said they were losing Conservative support and would never manage to crowbar off enough centre leftists to make up for it. They're going to get destroyed at the next election, and God help Australia under Shorten. |
I am not a fan of Shorten but rather him than anything that Liberals have got. Cannot stand Bernadi!
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David
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I'd wait until Bernardi's more than a one-man band before declaring him a prime ministerial candidate! Will be interesting to see if Fraser Anning signs up to his group, but even then you'd need a pretty substantial Liberal Party split for his lot to even be a viable minor party.
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swoop42 
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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Bernardi is more likely to marry an Armadillo than become PM.
Hell he's more likely to be seen inserting one up his rectum.
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stui magpie
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| swoop42 wrote: | Bernardi is more likely to marry an Armadillo than become PM.
Hell he's more likely to be seen inserting one up his rectum. |
An Echidna more likely.
The queue to pull it out would go a fair way 
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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| stui magpie wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | Bernardi is more likely to marry an Armadillo than become PM.
Hell he's more likely to be seen inserting one up his rectum. |
An Echidna more likely.
The queue to pull it out would go a fair way |
That would require armasadildo.
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Jezza 
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| Wokko wrote: | Happy to see his motion on the victims of Communism was successful. Bernardi is setting himself up as Australia's Trump and if he can manage to learn to not have a political tin ear he'll have some success.
The Liberals have done a great job of going from a broad church party to a moderate centre-right pastel, stand for nothing party. I said they were losing Conservative support and would never manage to crowbar off enough centre leftists to make up for it. They're going to get destroyed at the next election, and God help Australia under Shorten. |
This.
The Liberal Party has no discernible identity on what it stands for these days, and this has been exacerbated by Turnbull taking control of the leadership and installing those allied closely to him in significant cabinet positions. The likes of Christopher Pyne and others are cancers within that political party.
As a result of all of this, it has alienated much of the traditional Liberal voting base, particularly those with conservative leanings who are now defecting to either One Nation, Australian Conservatives or the LDP (though they are Libertarian compared to the other two minor parties, but advocate for small government and low taxes). Turnbull has tried to pander to more centrist and centre-left leaning voters, but he's been largely unsuccessful in this as the polls have consistently shown.
Labor will smash them in the next federal election on a two party preferred basis, despite having an average primary vote in their own right, much of that due to the rise of the Greens and Shorten being relatively unpopular with voters. I will be fascinated to see how the minor parties on both sides of the political spectrum perform more than anything else.
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| Jezza wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | Happy to see his motion on the victims of Communism was successful. Bernardi is setting himself up as Australia's Trump and if he can manage to learn to not have a political tin ear he'll have some success.
The Liberals have done a great job of going from a broad church party to a moderate centre-right pastel, stand for nothing party. I said they were losing Conservative support and would never manage to crowbar off enough centre leftists to make up for it. They're going to get destroyed at the next election, and God help Australia under Shorten. |
This.
The Liberal Party has no discernible identity on what it stands for these days, and this has been exacerbated by Turnbull taking control of the leadership and installing those in significant cabinet positions. The likes of Christopher Pyne and others are cancers within that political party.
As a result of all of this, it has alienated much of the traditional Liberal voting base, particularly those with conservative leanings who are now defecting to either One Nation, Australian Conservatives or the LDP (though they are Libertarian compared to the other two minor parties, but advocate for small government and low taxes). Turnbull has tried to pander to more centrist and centre-left leaning voters, but he's been largely unsuccessful in this as the polls have consistently shown.
Labor will smash them in the next federal election on a two party preferred basis, despite having an average primary vote in their own right, much of that due to the rise of the Greens and Shorten being relatively unpopular with voters. I will be fascinated to see how the minor parties on both sides of the political spectrum perform more than anything else. |
Thats one view of the Liberals. My folks joined them when Menzies was leader, because he was perceived as progressive. |
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Mugwump
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| partypie wrote: | | Jezza wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | Happy to see his motion on the victims of Communism was successful. Bernardi is setting himself up as Australia's Trump and if he can manage to learn to not have a political tin ear he'll have some success.
The Liberals have done a great job of going from a broad church party to a moderate centre-right pastel, stand for nothing party. I said they were losing Conservative support and would never manage to crowbar off enough centre leftists to make up for it. They're going to get destroyed at the next election, and God help Australia under Shorten. |
This.
The Liberal Party has no discernible identity on what it stands for these days, and this has been exacerbated by Turnbull taking control of the leadership and installing those in significant cabinet positions. The likes of Christopher Pyne and others are cancers within that political party.
As a result of all of this, it has alienated much of the traditional Liberal voting base, particularly those with conservative leanings who are now defecting to either One Nation, Australian Conservatives or the LDP (though they are Libertarian compared to the other two minor parties, but advocate for small government and low taxes). Turnbull has tried to pander to more centrist and centre-left leaning voters, but he's been largely unsuccessful in this as the polls have consistently shown.
Labor will smash them in the next federal election on a two party preferred basis, despite having an average primary vote in their own right, much of that due to the rise of the Greens and Shorten being relatively unpopular with voters. I will be fascinated to see how the minor parties on both sides of the political spectrum perform more than anything else. |
Thats one view of the Liberals. My folks joined them when Menzies was leader, because he was perceived as progressive. |
Menzies was a proper Conservative. He knew that patience, caution, quiet patriotism, careful budgeting, civility, and a secure understanding of the origin of our freedoms are all more conducive to progress than a hundred government programmes pandering to squawking interest groups. And he presided over a great deal of real progress. The hallowed Keating reforms seem to me to have inaugurated a lot of money-making, but little real progress for ordinary Australians.
Unlike today’s so-called Conservatives, Menzies was perfectly content to see the state manage natural monopolies or make social capital investments that markets would not. He was not without his faults, but we could do with a modern version of him. Bernardi is not the guy. Turnbull does not have the leadership skills. Hanson has the intellect of a garden pea. The Liberals are a party for real estate agents. Shorten is a grim apparatchik who would not make an interesting secretary of the tram drivers’ union.
The bit of the Greens that is not Communist is a serious party, but otherwise it is hard to see anyone with a serious philosophical commitment to anything in Australian politics.
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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Bernardi at the Mardi Graie is coming down the stairs,
Bernardi at the Mardi Graie is waxing his wrinkled pair,
Bernardi at the Mardi Graie is chasing a hairy bear,
'Cause on Tuesdays he tries to cup below the underwear.
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
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| swoop42 wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | Bernardi is more likely to marry an Armadillo than become PM.
Hell he's more likely to be seen inserting one up his rectum. |
An Echidna more likely.
The queue to pull it out would go a fair way |
That would require armasadildo. |
Replace the gerbil in this story with an Echidna, then imagine the mess the quills would cause when the Echida comes out backwards at cannonball speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTrOb8zyrZk
Armageddon!!!!!!! 
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