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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:21 am
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How long till Turnbull goes?

1. When the polls are down.

2. When we are going to approach 30 consecutive negative polls (the number which he based his knifing of Thye Mad Monk) - still a little while off.

3. Same sex marriage which he supports but has been led by the conservtive rump including the Mad Monk is likely but not yet definitely going to be a Yes vote.

4. The energy debate & going with a thought bubble - policy on the run & changing more times than the Mad Monk has held positions on Climate change.

5. NBN failure and he was the Minister in charge

6. Now resorting to a change of tactic to obfuscate his own shortcomings by throwing yet more mud via the anti union mechanism set up by the Mad Monk & the over the top abuse of using the Federal Police (30 of them no less) with two raids last night. What should have been a stage-managed morality play about Bill Shorten has blown up in the government’s face

Thank the Lord for the Minister of pronunciation and elocution - (no not Eric Abetz but the Asbestos mining company defender - Michaela Cash) was so incensed indeed in her fulimating best she stated she was highly offended by any insinuation that she or her office has forewarned the media (The media pack were at the offices of the AWU in Sydney & Melbourne before the AFP cavalry arrived)

These are just a short list of where Turnbull is at. Not looking good so far.

Catherine Murphy of the Guardian online has a good take on the last point:

"...After telling a Senate committee for much of the day that neither she, nor her office, tipped off the media about controversial police raids on the Australian Workers Union, the employment minister Michaelia Cash, has now had to correct the public record, and cop the resignation of a senior member of her staff.

AFP won't hand over seized documents until at least Friday – as it happened
The opposition calls AFP raids on the Australian Workers’ Union ‘an abuse of power’ and claims Michaelia Cash is responsible for the ‘witch-hunt’ .

“How can we actually believe anything you say,” the Labor senator Doug Cameron asked of the besieged minister on Wednesday night after a day which had lurched between paint-stripping hyper-partisan aggression and high farce.

Given Cash had told the committee five times throughout the course of Wednesday that neither she, nor her office, had assisted in putting cameras on the scene of the raids before the police turned up at AWU offices, the plausibility question from Cameron seemed entirely reasonable
....

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/25/michaelia-cash-and-the-rogue-staffer-when-political-theatre-goes-off-script

This is pass the popcorn time. To see Cash stuff it up big time is a hoot. She threw her staffer under the bus (thanks Doug)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:13 am
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The desperation of the current Government is very alarming and I am surprised as history shows us that personal attacks don't go down well with the voters. The AFP raids are an embarrassment for everyone involved and it's already biting them in the arse. The AFP are mere pawns along with the dumb magistrate who allowed the warrant. Now the AFP have agreed not to pass on the information awaiting the results of a Court challenge Friday. The AFP will be pissed off that they have been manipulated. As for Cash, she has blatantly lied to Parliament as she stated that "her office had no knowledge of the raids", yet her staffer has admitted contacting the media about the raids and resigned. Embarassed Now Cash has dug herself into a hole, she may have to call the AFP to charge the staffer with the leaks. Will the staffer cop a conviction if he has taken one for the team?
The Government pulled the "Dutton English Test Legislation" before it was defeated and any further legislation will be pulled if it will suffer the same fate. The blaming the opposition is falling on deaf ears and the people are not really listening. The NBN is just another issue. Shorten will not win the next election, the born to rule LNP will lose it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:01 am
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Now Cash is asking the AFP to investigate the AFP as someone has leaked the raid to her office. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:12 am
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Culprit wrote:
Now Cash is asking the AFP to investigate the AFP as someone has leaked the raid to her office. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing


Laughing Laughing This is hysterical.

Malcolm Turnbull has f*cked up bigtime. When trying to deflect from:

Poor polling
Immigaton f*ckups
Energy Policy f*ckups
NBN f*ckups
Education f*ckups
Same Sex plebicite f*ckups

Turnbull starts a fire and says look over there.

This has blown up in his face bigtime and shoes how poor his decision making is. First Godwin Gretch now the Federal Police.

Poor decision-maker who is not fit to be the Prime Minister.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:16 am
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Please make some suggestions for improvement.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:47 am
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Quote:
Labor senators are now asking why a Fair Work Ombudsman media adviser would have known about impending raids courtesy of the Registered Organisations Commission.

Labor wants to know whether commission executives were aware the Fair Work Ombudsman media staffer who knew raids may take place once worked with a staffer of Senator Cash.

Natalie James, from the Fair Work Ombudsman, says the media adviser knew at 12.30 pm on Tuesday that warrants had been sought (four hours before the raids).

Ms James says the media adviser had no contact with anyone outside the agency about the raids.

(This is important. Yesterday, Registered Organisations Commission officials said their staff weren't briefed until mid afternoon.)
It's getting better. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:34 am
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This is growing legs. The leak looks like it's come from the Registered Organizations Commission (ROC). To quote Jon Faine, Turnbull is stuck between a ROC and a hard place - of it should be said, their own making. Laughing

The AWU was entirely cooepetative with The Royal Commission to clobber Bill Shorten but $80 million dollars later they didn't find anything to nail Shorten. They did find that workers swear on building sites Shocked

ROC requested documents from the AWU. The bAWU had no issue handing the documents over but asked where the direction for requesting the information came from. Was it from POlice or was it from the Goverment. THe ROC refused to explian.

This is yet to come out.

Who provided the request to the ROC to investigate a matter 10 years old?

Why doesn't the minister for pronunciation and employment resign given we are in a westminster system with Minsterial responsibility?

What did Turnbull know & when did he know it?

Did the goverment have any relationship/communication whether direct or by proxy with ROC with resepct to the investgation and with respect to the use of the AFP?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:05 pm
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This is the Grech fiasco all over again. Turnbull didn't learn.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:58 pm
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Just heard an excellent speech by Shorten in Parliament. Clear, decisive & landed on the floundering Prince of Point Piper.

Amongst other things he said that:

Members of the government deep down know that Malcolm Turnbull is a bad decison maker (Godwin Grech anyone)

That 36 hours ago Turnbull would have boasted to his party room: "we've got this one in the bag" - (thinking they've nailed Shorten)

That when Turbull knifed the mad Monk even he (Shorten)n thought he'd have his work cut out, but waht a disaappoinment to most of the Australian people has Turnbull turned out to be: Instead of fopcussing on governing with respect to a range of isues he's too caught up with his political opponents.

Made reference to the politicization of the ROC , involving the AFP etc.

made reference that ordinary Australians can't get through to Centrlink etc be it aged pensioners and other welfare recipients but they can organize calls to the Media, the police etc and can send over debt collectors acting on behalf Centrelink...

It was a fine speech.

Turnbull the emperor has no clothes.

Abbott the wrecker wil be smiling but he's no chance of becoming PM again - The Libs aren't that stupid.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:17 pm
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He's barely hanging on as it is, the Right hates him, the left hates him, all he's got left is the tiny sliver of "moderate Liberals" like Pyne and everybody hates him too, probably has some sympathy from the Labor Right, but nobody really likes them either.

He's a goner, it's just a shame that we get Shorten and the whiny pearl clutchers like Plibersook.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:13 pm
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The staffer taking the fall will turn on them if charged by the AFP. The LNP are in damage control.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:15 pm
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As for the NBN, I remember Turnbull saying that it would be superceded by 5G wireless internet and was a waste of money. Did the Libs get saddled with ironclad contracts with this and just tried to neuter it? The whole thing has been a fiasco, I had better internet with Optus cable in the early 2000s
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:49 am
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It's official, the AFP are now investigating the AFP over the leak. If the AFP may not want to be seen as the laughing stock, I would suggest that they are now. Great stuff by the AG. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:08 am
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Culprit wrote:
It's official, the AFP are now investigating the AFP over the leak. If the AFP may not want to be seen as the laughing stock, I would suggest that they are now. Great stuff by the AG. Laughing


Jon Faine this morning: "Cash didn't check" Laughing

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All we need now is a Hugh Court ruling not go their way. Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing
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