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Piethagoras' Theorem Taurus

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:48 pm
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Firstly, well done to Travis, a true Collingwood great! I wouldn't be dead against getting him back for another year.

Secondly, I must say, David, you are a twit! Robbo aint far off either. Remember this article?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/collingwood/travis-cloke-thriving-at-western-bulldogs-compared-to-collingwood-says-david-cloke/news-story/e6f77594aca73ed013e7d8c54367eebc
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DAVID Cloke has lashed Nathan Buckley, saying his son Travis was thriving at the Western Bulldogs because of coach Luke Beveridge and the game plan.Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:06 pm
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Well done Travis on a wonderful career
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:58 pm
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Congratulations on a wonderful career Travis. You will always be a premiership player at the magpies.
I always wondered if we would see the absolute best of you and I know you tried but I think the external pressure often had your mind racing.
Regardless you left the magpie faithful with many wonderful memories and your highlight reel will be packed with superb marks.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:41 pm
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Geek wrote:
But I don't understand... "Bevo" was going to turn his decline around and make the league pay. I read it right here. Weren't we going to regret letting him go or something? Bevo's teh Awsumnest.

Anyway, congratulation to Trav on a fine career. Dual AA, Copeland winner and Collingwood premiership CHF. Never copped an even break from the scumps either. Strong, durable and a fantastic contested mark, especially at his peak.

Bevo never claimed he was going to turn it around for Cloke. It was giving him an opportunity to perform on the big stage again after we pushed him out. In reality Cloke was finished as an AFL footballer about 2-3 years ago but many of our supporters didn't see it coming. It has nothing to do with Buckley but everything to do with the evolving game of AFL footy and the slowing down of Cloke as a footballer. Where we are to blame is the ludicrous 5 year contract we offered Cloke and the expectation he could keep playing AA quality football. What we're experiencing now with Mayne is pretty much the same experience with Cloke, footballers we once worshipped as players are now over the hill as viable players. We didn't see it coming with Cloke and we failed (me included) to see the signs with Mayne.

Sarcasm meter faulty??
Was having a dig at the hater posts here that said Bevo would turn Cloke around.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:35 pm
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mudlark wrote:
I think it would be fitting for Trav to do a lap of honour at a Collingwood game next year.

Whoever at the club that is in charge of things like this should get it done.
Great idea and 100% deserved.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:04 pm
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Predict he shall be given life hall of fame status at the Pies 2017 season launch!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:09 pm
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Well done on a great career Trav.

Loved yelling Clokey at the TV when u accepted ur premiership medal.

You will forever be a collingwood premiership player!

Sucks he didnt get to do this during the season and get a big press conference like other players do. and able to say goodbye to his mates.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:15 pm
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/travis-cloke-no-one-bigger-on-the-big-stage-20171025-gz81oq.html

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... He was a big man who drew the game to him. He thrilled, excited, frustrated and confounded. But he was never dull.

The ball was drawn to Travis because he would reward a teammate's trust to kick it in his direction. Packs formed around him but fell off as he reached higher and wider for the ball. Other packs collapsed beneath him when he arrived clattering over the top.

He could mark anything. When he led, the defender was helpless. His shoulders were too broad to reach around, his hips too powerful to move him sideways. The game valued contested marks more then than it did later on, when owning the ball as it scuttled up the ground was seen as more valuable.

Travis did not have a leap but he had strength. He could not be budged from the ball. He could not be outmuscled. In the period he played no one took more contested marks. ...

The real Cloke moments came when he led and marked the ball out beyond 50 metres. The heir to Anthony Rocca, Travis understood the moment to go big. ...

He would roost the ball grand distances. He could change the course of a game in moments such as this. His teammates felt they could do anything when Travis did things like that. The opposition thought the same.
...

Cloke was a big man in a bruising game. He would bully teams and push defenders around. Then he would go home and sketch pictures and read an art book. He was sensitive. Social media was not so sensitive. A target for his team on the field, he was a target for the keyboard coward off it.

Travis still had the fire to play on but having the will and having the way had been drifting further apart in recent years. But when he had the fire, when he had the will and the way there was no one bigger on the big stage than Travis.
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Bruce Gonsalves Gemini



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:21 pm
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Well played Trav.
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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:23 pm
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K wrote:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/travis-cloke-no-one-bigger-on-the-big-stage-20171025-gz81oq.html

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... He was a big man who drew the game to him. He thrilled, excited, frustrated and confounded. But he was never dull.

The ball was drawn to Travis because he would reward a teammate's trust to kick it in his direction. Packs formed around him but fell off as he reached higher and wider for the ball. Other packs collapsed beneath him when he arrived clattering over the top.

He could mark anything. When he led, the defender was helpless. His shoulders were too broad to reach around, his hips too powerful to move him sideways. The game valued contested marks more then than it did later on, when owning the ball as it scuttled up the ground was seen as more valuable.

Travis did not have a leap but he had strength. He could not be budged from the ball. He could not be outmuscled. In the period he played no one took more contested marks. ...

The real Cloke moments came when he led and marked the ball out beyond 50 metres. The heir to Anthony Rocca, Travis understood the moment to go big. ...

He would roost the ball grand distances. He could change the course of a game in moments such as this. His teammates felt they could do anything when Travis did things like that. The opposition thought the same.
...

Cloke was a big man in a bruising game. He would bully teams and push defenders around. Then he would go home and sketch pictures and read an art book. He was sensitive. Social media was not so sensitive. A target for his team on the field, he was a target for the keyboard coward off it.

Travis still had the fire to play on but having the will and having the way had been drifting further apart in recent years. But when he had the fire, when he had the will and the way there was no one bigger on the big stage than Travis.

Well, that's a fine and generous tribute.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:47 pm
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K wrote:
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/travis-cloke-no-one-bigger-on-the-big-stage-20171025-gz81oq.html

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... He was a big man who drew the game to him. He thrilled, excited, frustrated and confounded. But he was never dull.

The ball was drawn to Travis because he would reward a teammate's trust to kick it in his direction. Packs formed around him but fell off as he reached higher and wider for the ball. Other packs collapsed beneath him when he arrived clattering over the top.

He could mark anything. When he led, the defender was helpless. His shoulders were too broad to reach around, his hips too powerful to move him sideways. The game valued contested marks more then than it did later on, when owning the ball as it scuttled up the ground was seen as more valuable.

Travis did not have a leap but he had strength. He could not be budged from the ball. He could not be outmuscled. In the period he played no one took more contested marks. ...

The real Cloke moments came when he led and marked the ball out beyond 50 metres. The heir to Anthony Rocca, Travis understood the moment to go big. ...

He would roost the ball grand distances. He could change the course of a game in moments such as this. His teammates felt they could do anything when Travis did things like that. The opposition thought the same.
...

Cloke was a big man in a bruising game. He would bully teams and push defenders around. Then he would go home and sketch pictures and read an art book. He was sensitive. Social media was not so sensitive. A target for his team on the field, he was a target for the keyboard coward off it.

Travis still had the fire to play on but having the will and having the way had been drifting further apart in recent years. But when he had the fire, when he had the will and the way there was no one bigger on the big stage than Travis.


That's a nice article.

I hope Trav can look back on his career with pride, if not now then sometime in the not too distant future. he deserves to.

he'll always be a Collingwood Legend.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:13 pm
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It's easy to forget just how good a player Travis was in his prime.

While the statistic has only been recorded since 1999 he's still the current record holder for most contested marks in a season with 95 in 2011.

He's also 5th on that list with 73 in 2012.

Travis won the Copeland in just his 3rd season and kicked 307.226 from 133 games between the years 2010-2015.

His 3 first half goals from the 2011 grand final were mighty and if only all his teammates had operated on that same level that day they would have been viewed as the stuff of legend in a premiership winning team.

Well done Travis on a magnificent career and all the best for the future.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:40 pm
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droversdog65 wrote:
BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Geek wrote:
But I don't understand... "Bevo" was going to turn his decline around and make the league pay. I read it right here. Weren't we going to regret letting him go or something? Bevo's teh Awsumnest.

Anyway, congratulation to Trav on a fine career. Dual AA, Copeland winner and Collingwood premiership CHF. Never copped an even break from the scumps either. Strong, durable and a fantastic contested mark, especially at his peak.

Bevo never claimed he was going to turn it around for Cloke. It was giving him an opportunity to perform on the big stage again after we pushed him out. In reality Cloke was finished as an AFL footballer about 2-3 years ago but many of our supporters didn't see it coming. It has nothing to do with Buckley but everything to do with the evolving game of AFL footy and the slowing down of Cloke as a footballer. Where we are to blame is the ludicrous 5 year contract we offered Cloke and the expectation he could keep playing AA quality football. What we're experiencing now with Mayne is pretty much the same experience with Cloke, footballers we once worshipped as players are now over the hill as viable players. We didn't see it coming with Cloke and we failed (me included) to see the signs with Mayne.

Sarcasm meter faulty??
Was having a dig at the hater posts here that said Bevo would turn Cloke around.


Correct weight, Drover's.

And 5 from too. I pretty much agree with everything you wrote. We needed to fold to Damir in 2012 and clear Trav to Essendon. Could have picked up 2 first rounders for him at that stage easily, one of them top 10. The Doggies would have been all over him too.

The club says that they decided after the prelim loss that year that the list had gone as far as it could without a rebuild. That we held on to Trav on top dollar makes me doubt that club line.
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daicos35 Leo

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:13 pm
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When Trav was flying, we were flying. Awesome highlight reel. Great memories.

Can't imagine playing against him and his brothers next year! Might get to meet some keyboard warriors on the field in that league. Anti-social media - time for some revenge!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:40 pm
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pablo wrote:
We should draft him - 1 year contract.

I am actually not kidding - massive tank and KPP.
Why not use him as a foil for others in the forward line - opposition would need to send defender/s to him.

Alternatively, a huge marking wingman.


That would be something. But his form would see him play the majority of the year in the VFL.

It's be nice to repair this broken relationship though. A lap of honour might be the best we can wish for.

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