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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:03 am
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Ever heard of Escort girls have we, they seem to proliferate around the time of the Brownlow medal and GF. Just saying.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:09 am
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Apparently she has complained and the police are investigating (which means, I presume, they know who the player responsible is). Unless they’re looking to make an example of someone, though, I doubt much will come of it – I mean, as ‘revenge porn’ legislation goes, this hardly qualifies as ‘porn’. There are some in the more progressive parts of society who are seeking to make public toplessness legal, after all. Give the player a slap on the wrist, get them to apologise to the woman wronged and then ask, again, why the media is permitted to distribute photos like these to a far wider audience than they would have otherwise received.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:50 am
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David wrote:
Apparently she has complained and the police are investigating (which means, I presume, they know who the player responsible is). Unless they’re looking to make an example of someone, though, I doubt much will come of it – I mean, as ‘revenge porn’ legislation goes, this hardly qualifies as ‘porn’. There are some in the more progressive parts of society who are seeking to make public toplessness legal, after all. Give the player a slap on the wrist, get them to apologise to the woman wronged and then ask, again, why the media is permitted to distribute photos like these to a far wider audience than they would have otherwise received.


that makes it a whole different story. Do any of the pics show her face? i honestly thought it was a model pose. She is pretty spectacular. All these silly young things. Ive drummed into my kids "dont put in physical evidence anything you might not want out there at a later date, words, pictures, theres scum everywhere. just dont. silly girl.

still thankfully not a collingwood story!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:22 pm
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David wrote:
Apparently she has complained and the police are investigating (which means, I presume, they know who the player responsible is). Unless they’re looking to make an example of someone, though, I doubt much will come of it – I mean, as ‘revenge porn’ legislation goes, this hardly qualifies as ‘porn’. There are some in the more progressive parts of society who are seeking to make public toplessness legal, after all. Give the player a slap on the wrist, get them to apologise to the woman wronged and then ask, again, why the media is permitted to distribute photos like these to a far wider audience than they would have otherwise received.


The legislation is not about porn.
The legislation is about the distribution of Intimate Images of a person without the person's consent.
Intimate Images are defined as;
"..a moving or still image that depicts -
(A) a person engaged in sexual activity, or
(B) a person in a manner or context that is sexual, or
(C) the genital, or anal region of a person or in the case of a female, the breasts."

It is a Summary Offence to distribute the kind of images currently being discussed. The images depicted are clearly covered by this law.
Since it is an offence, the onus is on a person to NOT distribute such images without clear consent.
The images are out and the person depicted is claiming they are without their consent. It is no hanging offence, but it is definitely an offence by law nonetheless.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:29 pm
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Oh, I don’t disagree with any of that! I just think that, what with recent pushes for top-freedom – and the fact that, in other parts of the law, toplessness isn’t really considered nudity at all – that part of (C) might well be reconsidered in future.

Also, I don’t believe her face was included in the original texts, which makes the crime substantially less harmful. While I don’t disagree that it’s clearly unlawful, I think we’re very much in slap-on-the-wrist territory.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:55 pm
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2 years sounds about right for this. It's much worse than accidentally taking clenbuterol.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:58 pm
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Sixpoints speaks with truth and clarity.

E wants to blame the victim. If the woman didn't consent to the dissemination of the image, then it's a criminal offence. This has nothing to do with political correctness.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:02 pm
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I hadn't thought of that.
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swoop42 Virgo

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:20 pm
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The issue isn't that the player took a picture of her breasts, that she would have agreed to, it's the sharing of it with others without her permission that makes it a crime.

Because we can't see her face it spares her greater humiliation from the wider public but within the football circles it was originally shared with she would be known and thus she feels aggrieved.

P.S-On a side note do people realise that while the age of consent is 16 if a couple make an explicit video or image that features a 16 or 17 year old and it becomes known to the police the people involved can be charged with a child pornography offence.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:27 pm
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Assuming that a woman hasn't or wouldn't give consent to the picture being posted is pretty damn sexist. If what David says is true and she's come forward then sure the guy is a sleaze and should probably compensate her for his shithouse actions but why is everyone frothing at the mouth without any facts?

People post pictures of themselves naked, their partners naked, various sexual combinations of third parties and pretty much anything else you could think of. Why does this picture that is about Picture Magazine levels of tame warrant this kind of reaction?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:02 pm
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swoop42 wrote:
On a side note do people realise that while the age of consent is 16 if a couple make an explicit video or image that features a 16 or 17 year old and it becomes known to the police the people involved can be charged with a child pornography offence.


I think most of us know that, though I strongly doubt that’s the case here (or else the papers might actually find themselves in hot water). Having said that, if a photo of a 16-year-old’s breasts could constitute child pornography, then people with old copies of The Sun would have big problems.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:23 pm
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Harrysz wrote:
Sixpoints speaks with truth and clarity.

E wants to blame the victim. If the woman didn't consent to the dissemination of the image, then it's a criminal offence. This has nothing to do with political correctness.


the real crime is concealing her perfect breasts. I cant believe that it is legal to put those black dots on the photo. heads should roll.

Cant we please move on. Everyone should get to enjoy her perfect form. She owes it to us at the very least.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:25 pm
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David wrote:
Good to see The Daily Mail remaining on the pulse of the world’s really important events, as opposed to, say, trading in cheap titillation.

By the way, as much as I have no time for E’s victim-blaming arguments (obviously non-consensually sharing around nude photos of a sexual partner is a dog act, if that is indeed what has happened here), why isn’t anyone going after the media for doing exactly the same thing? Have they obtained consent from the person to share their photo? What makes that okay?


she isnt a victim. she is actually a fame predator!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:36 pm
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Would someone be able to clarify what kind of contracts players have with their clubs?

I'm not condoning what was done.
However, if I did something dodgy on my own time and away from my worksite and then my employer started talking about taking
punitive action against me I'd be getting the lawyers (or the union) involved.

Are AFL players ever "off the clock"?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:53 pm
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E wrote:
David wrote:
Good to see The Daily Mail remaining on the pulse of the world’s really important events, as opposed to, say, trading in cheap titillation.

By the way, as much as I have no time for E’s victim-blaming arguments (obviously non-consensually sharing around nude photos of a sexual partner is a dog act, if that is indeed what has happened here), why isn’t anyone going after the media for doing exactly the same thing? Have they obtained consent from the person to share their photo? What makes that okay?


she isnt a victim. she is actually a fame predator!


You know this for a fact do You?
of course you don't, very judgmental. She may well have shown poor judgement but the tool who shared an intimate photo still made her a victim

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