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Albert Parker 



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:28 pm
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^Good corporate governance to have replenishment of the board. Maybe around 8-10 years. It is rare that individuals remain independent. It would be hard to argue that Ed fits that description.

I could take a guess. Wouldn't be hard to narrow things down. i'd be staggered, for instance, if Christine Holgate was not a 'proper process' person as a recent female CEO of a listed company and now CEO of a large Gov't Institution.


I think Murphy is philanthropic and clearly loves the club. Has enjoyed success in his professional life too. Seems an asset, as you note.


The rumour has been that it was Murphy and Holgate who stood up to Eddie and demanded proper process (when he allegedly couldn't help himself and wanted to pick Lethlean and get Gubby to return). My advice to people voting at the AGM is to keep "proper process" people and remove yes people. But that means it's important to know who is who with some reasonable degree of certainty. This question is clearly linked to the question of who wants to remove the three board members in question (e.g. was it the review's recommendation or Eddie's counterplay?).


Agree with those views K

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I don't like the idea of the Board vetting potential candidates to fill possible vacancies. This should be the role of the members. We should be encouraging people to stand and then let the members choose who they want. The CFC is not a privately owned club, it is a members run club. Sometimes I think the board forget that.


Exactly right, Rude Boy. The Club hasn't had elections for years. All committee changes are stage managed with retirements and co-options between AGMs. I think most members accepted this while the Club was getting results, either on the field or in improved facilities but when things go wrong it makes it difficult to suggest changes.

In the VFL and AFL the tradition is for member owned clubs. Private ownership has mostly been disastrous, ask Sydney Swans, Brisbane Bears or the first incarnation of the WC Eagles. The absence of elections means that members do not feel ownership of the club and events like the Members Forum do not solve the problem they underline the problem.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:24 pm
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Personally I couldn't give a rats rectum who was on the board as long as the club was financially well managed and the playing and coaching groups are given all the resources to be successful.
On the previous posts concerning drafting.
The club would always be bullish about any recruit no matter if he was a 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick. It's called building up people's confidence.
Whether Murphy would have been pick 6-16-26 or 39 is of little consequence
What matters is how he plays when given the opportunity in our team.
Every club has a board of players on any given order generally done on the needs basis of that particular club.
Some may view players completely different to what another club does purely on there individual needs.
Swan at 58 turned out to be pure gold
Beams at 29 again pure gold
Let's hope Murphy can be as good as either of those 2 if so then it's a hell of a pick up again
Lastly the JDG debate. I think the kid had gotten a bit ahead of himself and his indecretion and subsequent time on the side lines might have helped his maturing process.
He's a undoubted talent it's now a matter of fulfilling that talent.
I've seen enough to suggest his best if very good he just lacks the week to week consistency at the moment but hopefull 2018 he can discover that and become the player we all hope he can be.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:28 pm
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2017 Collingwood Annual General Meeting

Date: Tuesday 27 February 2018
Time: 5:30pm for 6:00pm start
Location: Glasshouse at the Holden Centre - Olympic Boulevard, Olympic Park, Melbourne

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Please note if you wish to attend the Annual General Meeting you must bring your membership card on the night.*

Please note entry to the Annual General Meeting is open to members with Social Club Access aged over 18 years.


2017 Annual Report (pdf) available at
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/annual-reports
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:30 pm
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/big-changes-on-collingwood-board-see-licuria-sizer-join-20180214-p4z0bn.html

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Big changes on Collingwood board see Licuria, Sizer join
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Collingwood's board has undergone its biggest change in Eddie McGuire's presidency, with two directors leaving and decorated former player Paul Licuria joining alongside Jodie Sizer, who is the first Indigenous woman to be on an AFL club board.

Long-serving board member and former player Ian McMullin and former Olympic gold medallist Alisa Camplin have both stepped down.

The change follows a review of the club's board by acting chief executive Peter Murphy and governance specialist Chris Thomas.
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Licuria and Sizer were the only nominations for the board and were chosen by a nominations committee that was established following the club review. Nominations closed on Tuesday.

They will be elected unoposed at next week's annual general meeting.
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Murphy, who has been acting CEO at Collingwood since Pert's mid-year departure and has been instrumental in the revamp of the club, is close to Licuria, who runs an online training business that Murphy's private equity firm part owns.

Licuria had been in discussions with Murphy and McGuire about returning to the club in a board role - effectively replacing McMullin - since around Christmas.
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http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood/copeland-trophy-winner-paul-licuria-has-joined-the-collingwood-board/news-story/df2fff0da3436293fed10cb87c8e8403
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Licuria will replace McMullin, who is stepping down after almost 20 years, following the club’s lengthy review into its football department.


“It has been a privilege and a wonderful experience to serve Collingwood,” McMullin said.

“The review and subsequent blueprint the club commissioned last year made a case for change right across the club, a position I agreed with, and for me the club comes first. I feel the time is right to pass the baton on to someone like Paul Licuria.

“Collingwood is one of the great characters on the national sporting stage. It will always be close to my heart and, of course, I will always be available to help the Collingwood Football Club in any way I can.”

Camplin has chosen to retire as a director after more than eight years on the board.
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-14/former-bf-indigenous-leader-join-pies-board

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Sizer is a founding partner and principal of the indigenous consulting division of Price Waterhouse Coopers and is a Djab Wurrung/Gunditjmara woman.

She is also an accountant, a lifelong Collingwood supporter - who has been a member of the club's Reconciliation Action Plan (RAP) sub-committee – and has worked with tertiary institutions, governments, sports codes and major businesses in developing programs to improve the lot of indigenous Australians.
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Since retirement, Licuria has qualified as a pilot, has become a business graduate of Swinburne Institute of Technology and earned a Masters of Business Administration from Victoria University.

He is also currently the chief executive of Alffie.com, which is an online training organisation that delivers education to the employment, disability employment, rehabilitation and corporate training sectors.

Camplin is leaving her position after more than eight years on the board but is likely to stay involved with the club to "ensure the club's ambitions for women's sport are realised".

Camplin, an aerial skier who won a gold medal at the 2002 Winter Olympics and bronze in 2006, is currently in PyeongChang as high performance manager with the Australian team.

McMullin will remain as a club patron after almost two decades on the board and a long period served as football director.
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There will be no board election at Collingwood in 2018.


The club's release:
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2018-02-14/two-board-changes-announced
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The nomination period for Collingwood board positions closed at 5pm yesterday.

Two nominations were received, one from Jodie Sizer and the other from Paul Licuria, who will now join the board as replacements for Alisa Camplin and Ian McMullin who have chosen to step down.

As such, there will not be a board election in 2018.
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Some other info on Sizer can be found at (e.g.)
https://www.pwc.com.au/indigenous-consulting.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTt69QBEQKA
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:40 am
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pies-close-in-on-ground-breaking-deal-to-sell-pokies-to-racing-club-20180215-p4z0ic.html

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Pies close in on ground-breaking deal to sell pokies to racing club
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Collingwood and the MRC have been discussing the potential sale of the Magpies' two gaming venues: The Club, which is based at Caroline Springs, and The Coach and Horses in Ringwood. They operate 156 machines at the two venues, which took just over $7 million from gamblers in the six months to December 31 last year.

While Collingwood has commercial reasons for looking to sell the two gaming venues, there is no question that the prospect of the competition's highest-profile club selling out of poker machines will delight the AFL hierarchy.
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Sources said that while the talks between the Magpies and the MRC have been extensive and are well advanced, there was still some work to do before a deal was finalised.

Collingwood's exploration of a sale of its gaming assets, which have earned the club millions in recent years, follows an in-depth review of all club operations that has seen the Magpies make major changes to the administration, football department and board.

The Magpies earned revenues of $12.2 million from their gaming operations in 2016-17, the third most in the AFL competition behind Hawthorn ($23.3 million) and Carlton ($17.6 million).
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Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has suggested to the club's members (when speaking at member forums) that the club would eventually like to get out of gaming, with the proviso that the club had to be in a financial position to do so.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:01 am
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I guess a week is a long time in football, even in the pre-season. Who would have thought that pokies plans would be but a footnote and that unopposed board changes would run a distant second in Pies news? The old JDG discussion on p.4-5 of this thread is mildly amusing in light of recent developments.

But I hope that JDG lamentations (from any viewpoint) won't run down the clock in the AGM next week. It's probably at most a symptom of bigger issues that ought to be raised.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:22 am
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E wrote:
DeGoey is DeMAN! He is our best player. You will see.


reposting following intraclub game to prove i am a genius.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:14 pm
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K wrote:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/big-changes-on-collingwood-board-see-licuria-sizer-join-20180214-p4z0bn.html

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Licuria and Sizer were the only nominations for the board and were chosen by a nominations committee ...

They will be elected unoposed at next week's annual general meeting.
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Murphy ... is close to Licuria, who runs an online training business that Murphy's private equity firm part owns.

Licuria had been in discussions with Murphy and McGuire about returning to the club in a board role - effectively replacing McMullin - since around Christmas.
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http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2018-02-14/two-board-changes-announced
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The nomination period for Collingwood board positions closed at 5pm yesterday.

Two nominations were received, one from Jodie Sizer and the other from Paul Licuria, who will now join the board as replacements for Alisa Camplin and Ian McMullin who have chosen to step down.

As such, there will not be a board election in 2018.

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I'm somewhat curious about this now (even ignoring any questions of orchestration). Will there really not be any board election? Isn't it standard in most organizations to have a vote even if the candidates are running unopposed and the result is presumed to be a formality? At least in principle, members could then refuse to accept a nominee and presumably the position would remain open until a new nominee was put to a subsequent vote.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:36 am
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^^^
The recent board developments are also interesting w.r.t. Niall's post-forum article [linked to on the previous page].

Jake Niall (Dec. 8 ) wrote:
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While the recommendation is for up to three directors to change, it is possible that there will only be one or two exiting at Collingwood’s annual general meeting in February. Former Olympic champion ski jumper Alisa Camplin and former player and football director Ian McMullin are slated to face election in February, if they stand.

The decision by McGuire and his directors to accept or embrace change follows not only the review of the board governance by Chris Thomas of Egon Zehnder, but also some agitation behind the scenes by at least two wealthy Collingwood-supporting businessmen.

The Collingwood hierarchy, thus, appears to be taking proactive steps to introduce change that would potentially stave off any challenges
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I wonder who the wealthy agitators are. w.r.t. "proactive steps... that would potentially stave off any challenges", it does look like Licuria was a convenient choice as someone presumably acceptable to both Murphy & McGuire.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:47 am
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K wrote:
^^^
The recent board developments are also interesting w.r.t. Niall's post-forum article [linked to on the previous page].

Jake Niall (Dec. 8 ) wrote:
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While the recommendation is for up to three directors to change, it is possible that there will only be one or two exiting at Collingwood’s annual general meeting in February. Former Olympic champion ski jumper Alisa Camplin and former player and football director Ian McMullin are slated to face election in February, if they stand.

The decision by McGuire and his directors to accept or embrace change follows not only the review of the board governance by Chris Thomas of Egon Zehnder, but also some agitation behind the scenes by at least two wealthy Collingwood-supporting businessmen.

The Collingwood hierarchy, thus, appears to be taking proactive steps to introduce change that would potentially stave off any challenges
.
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I wonder who the wealthy agitators are. w.r.t. "proactive steps... that would potentially stave off any challenges", it does look like Licuria was a convenient choice as someone presumably acceptable to both Murphy & McGuire.


This is not meant to be a slight on the Collingwood membership, but I'd sooner accept compromise candidates for the board determined by Eddie, Murphy and wealthy Collingwood business men, than a populist vote by the Collingwood members, influenced by Facebook and other social media outlets. I still remember what happened to us back in the 1980's.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:01 pm
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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
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This is not meant to be a slight on the Collingwood membership, but I'd sooner accept compromise candidates for the board determined by Eddie, Murphy and wealthy Collingwood business men, than a populist vote by the Collingwood members, influenced by Facebook and other social media outlets. I still remember what happened to us back in the 1980's.


Were the 80s problems due to foolish voting by Collingwood members?
(Were the 80s the last time Collingwood members had a meaningful vote? Wink )

We don't currently know who the wealthy Collingwood businessmen agitators are, but they're just Collingwood members too, so perhaps we cannot assume they're any less foolish than the masses might be.
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K wrote:
BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
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This is not meant to be a slight on the Collingwood membership, but I'd sooner accept compromise candidates for the board determined by Eddie, Murphy and wealthy Collingwood business men, than a populist vote by the Collingwood members, influenced by Facebook and other social media outlets. I still remember what happened to us back in the 1980's.


Were the 80s problems due to foolish voting by Collingwood members?
(Were the 80s the last time Collingwood members had a meaningful vote? Wink )

We don't currently know who the wealthy Collingwood businessmen agitators are, but they're just Collingwood members too, so perhaps we cannot assume they're any less foolish than the masses might be.


Have a read of Kill for Collingwood and you might get an idea wht BIFC is intimating. A history of players getting involved.Coaching jobs being promised etc. These days football media (and I know they read these forums) are faitr dinkum bludging scum when it comes to football politics. Context is igmored. The last ,eaningful vote was probably when Eddie first got in.

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Have a read of Kill for Collingwood and you might get an idea wht BIFC is intimating. A history of players getting involved.Coaching jobs being promised etc. ...

I'm not sure player meddling, promised coaching jobs, etc. is the fault of the members. Can Ranald Macdonald & the New Magpies be blamed on the members? It was Len Thompson et al. that backed them. One could cast Ranald & Al McAlister as that era's "wealthy Collingwood businessman agitators". (I guess the same is true of Eddie in a later era. The wealthy agitator becomes the wealthy agitated. Such is politics.) Their predecessors made it easy for them to grab power. (Also true of Eddie et al. History repeats itself?)

One good thing about the present AFL era is that it's a bit harder to bankrupt a club, with salary caps on both player payments and football-department spending. I guess there's still failed property investments, though.

[I also note that the author of Kill for Collingwood, Stremski, was on the board in the chaotic period before the McGuire coup.]
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Bucks5 wrote:
Funny that is isn't streamed this year, or is it? I didn't see the email.

In past years, the B&F has been streamed, but the Member Forum has had no streaming but only edited videos afterwards. (All this according to my current memory.) The club has indicated that there'll be such videos this year, too.

Maybe, but I remember watching something that the club had streamed and you could not see the powerpoint slides and the camera work was shocking. It was not the B&F so what else could it have been? I remember Bucks, Eddy, Pert, Hine and the Fitness guy all presented.

After I had posted, I also saw they will be releasing video highlights over the next few days on the club's twitter.


An unfulfilled promise, as far as I am aware. (Perhaps they found it too great a task editing out all the bits where Mr. Walsh berated members.)

It occurred to me that perhaps what you remembered the club streaming was the AGM. But I don't recall that happening either, and there is no indication that the AGM today will be streamed.
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