If Cotchin was a Pie
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doriswilgus
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Redlight wrote: | If he was a Collingwood player he would be gone for three.
In the general media, and community, Collingwood are the 'bad guys' so the mindset changes. It's the same for individuals, a 'villain' like Toby Greene, would be crucified.
If Cochin was part of a Collingwood bound GF team the discussion would be around the 'head being sacrosanct' and the fact that the affected player missed the rest of the match.
They would express their regret that Cochin had to miss a GF, but, well, 'rules are rules'.
The Tigers are riding a sentimental wave similar to what happened to the Dog's last year. At the moment you can see the entire AFL media community running a campaign so that letting Cochin off will be accepted.
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I agree with this 1000%.If it had been a Collingwood player who did that,all we would have heard was duty of care,head being sacrocanct,rules are rules, blah,blah,blah.But because it's a Richmond player,and they're flavor of the month at the moment,we're hearing that the rules should be massaged and he shouldn't have any trouble playing in the Grand Final.It definitely is a case of double standards. |
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thebaldfacts
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Serves the AFL right.
Their stupid policies risk a key player missing a GF just because they went in hard for the ball.
They will look stupid by bending over backwards to make sure there is no case to answer. |
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Location: Torino, Italy
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We will see. If he gets done will all of the conspiracy theorists change their view?
To me he was going for the ball and there was next to nothing in it. But he should cop a fine for negligence and hence should miss. _________________ Buon Giorno |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
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RudeBoy wrote: | Piesnchess wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | I don't think he's got anything to answer for. He went in low, not to bump, but to get the ball. It was incidental conduct imo. If he was attempting a bump he'd get 2 weeks, but as he went in low it's clear his hands were extended to grab the ball. |
BUT, Shiel was concussed, unable to play, ala Grundy incident, make NO mistake, if this was a Magpie, hed be out on his arse, its sniper Cotchins 3rd time up for chrissakes, in the one season. Rigged absolutely. |
It all depends on whether his intent was to bump or to get the ball. If his intention was to bump, then the head injury means he is gonski. So when tackling or bumping, the onus is on the tackler/bumper to ensure it doesn't injure a player's head. If it does then the player must get rubbed out. In this instance, however, it looked to me that Cotchin was diving in low to get the ball. It's a fine line I guess, but when I saw it on TV, my forst thought was that it was just an accidental knock in pursuit of the ball. |
Serious concussion, unable to play out the game, serial and repeat offender, I rest my case. BUT, the League is a totally corrupt organisation now, so I expect a slap on his wrist with a Kleenex tissue ! _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
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i hate carlton
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Applying the Grundy precedent, Cotchin should be suspended.
Additionally, he is doing it deliberately:
“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”
Ian Fleming, ex Secret Intelligence Service officer 1959 book “Goldfinger” _________________ ___________________
He's kicking pineapples!
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
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doriswilgus wrote: | Redlight wrote: | If he was a Collingwood player he would be gone for three.
In the general media, and community, Collingwood are the 'bad guys' so the mindset changes. It's the same for individuals, a 'villain' like Toby Greene, would be crucified.
If Cochin was part of a Collingwood bound GF team the discussion would be around the 'head being sacrosanct' and the fact that the affected player missed the rest of the match.
They would express their regret that Cochin had to miss a GF, but, well, 'rules are rules'.
The Tigers are riding a sentimental wave similar to what happened to the Dog's last year. At the moment you can see the entire AFL media community running a campaign so that letting Cochin off will be accepted.
It's a joke. |
I agree with this 1000%.If it had been a Collingwood player who did that,all we would have heard was duty of care,head being sacrocanct,rules are rules, blah,blah,blah.But because it's a Richmond player,and they're flavor of the month at the moment,we're hearing that the rules should be massaged and he shouldn't have any trouble playing in the Grand Final.It definitely is a case of double standards. |
DAMN RIGHT !!!!! _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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BEAMER09
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without doubt... _________________ COLLINGW09D |
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bally12
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The truth is Cotchin is a sniper, and he knew exactly what he was doing. He tucked his elbow in and drove into Shield's head with this body. His intention was to hurt Shiel and he certainly did that.
If he was going for the ball, his hands would be open and in attempt to grasp the ball. Brereton read it right.
Of course we know that he will get off however, because the AFL is openly corrupt. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Get Life _________________ I am Da Man |
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Dave The Man
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bally12 wrote: | The truth is Cotchin is a sniper, and he knew exactly what he was doing. He tucked his elbow in and drove into Shield's head with this body. His intention was to hurt Shiel and he certainly did that.
If he was going for the ball, his hands would be open and in attempt to grasp the ball. Brereton read it right.
Of course we know that he will get off however, because the AFL is openly corrupt. |
AFL will want Tigers to win the Flag as = More $$$$$ _________________ I am Da Man |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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The AFL and MRP will come up with some justification to not suspend him and given it's history of inconsistency when applying sanctions for incidents of a similar nature it shouldn't come as a surprise. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD!
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WarrenerraW
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I hope the dirty little sniper gets rubbed out but I have no doubt that the afl will conjure up some piss weak excuse for not throwing the book at him while the media are already on a crusade to defend him.
The system reeks of double standards. Grundy lays a perfectly good tackle within the laws of the game and is rubbed out. The media ensured his demise while the afl touted their pathetic excuses as to why he had to go.
Cotchin commits a dog act and the media wrap their arms around him and plead his innocence. Hang on... I thought the head was sacrosanct, what's that afl? it depends on the colour of your jumper? oh I see. and we make the rules up as we go along. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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The color of your jumper is always an important factor. |
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mudlark
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RudeBoy wrote: | Piesnchess wrote: | RudeBoy wrote: | I don't think he's got anything to answer for. He went in low, not to bump, but to get the ball. It was incidental conduct imo. If he was attempting a bump he'd get 2 weeks, but as he went in low it's clear his hands were extended to grab the ball. |
BUT, Shiel was concussed, unable to play, ala Grundy incident, make NO mistake, if this was a Magpie, hed be out on his arse, its sniper Cotchins 3rd time up for chrissakes, in the one season. Rigged absolutely. |
It all depends on whether his intent was to bump or to get the ball. If his intention was to bump, then the head injury means he is gonski. So when tackling or bumping, the onus is on the tackler/bumper to ensure it doesn't injure a player's head. If it does then the player must get rubbed out. In this instance, however, it looked to me that Cotchin was diving in low to get the ball. It's a fine line I guess, but when I saw it on TV, my forst thought was that it was just an accidental knock in pursuit of the ball. |
Rudey.He tucked his arm in and hunched the shoulder.Clearly went in to bump.,hit him in the head.3 points of what MRP look at.1.High Contact.2 High Impact(Concussed and missed the rest of the game.# Intent.Clearly had the intention to bump . 3 weeks and no downgrading due to previous 2 convictions. Same with the other one who knocked Whitfields head off. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Compare that to low Contactpoint 3 High ImpactConcussed and missed the rest of the game. |
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