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thebaldfacts
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Watching the game tonight, it got me thinking as to who is the better coach between Bucks and Cameron.
There is no doubt that Cameron has better personnel but it seems to me that Bucks gets better commitment from players. |
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Piesnchess
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The Giants are a team of champions, but NOT a champion team. And yes, I think Bucks does have the players playing for him, not sure about Leon though. 
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| I'll take Buckley the coach over Cameron the coach, but I'll take the entire recruiting team at GWS over the clowns in charge of recruiting at Collingwood since Malthouse left. |
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| thebaldfacts wrote: | Watching the game tonight, it got me thinking as to who is the better coach between Bucks and Cameron.
There is no doubt that Cameron has better personnel but it seems to me that Bucks gets better commitment from players. |
No question on the commitment issue. I thought GWS would be the team to beat this year but they don't put in the effort. The big example last night was when Jenkins tackled a GWS player and brought him to ground at half back. The Crows then moved the ball forward quite quickly and Jenkins kicked an easy over the top goal from just outside the goal square. He had just sprinted 3/4 the length of the ground without even one GWS player bothering to chase him. It's hard to be a coach when the players don't care. |
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5 from the wing on debut
Joined: 27 May 2016
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | thebaldfacts wrote: | Watching the game tonight, it got me thinking as to who is the better coach between Bucks and Cameron.
There is no doubt that Cameron has better personnel but it seems to me that Bucks gets better commitment from players. |
The Giants are a team of champions, but NOT a champion team. And yes, I think Bucks does have the players playing for him, not sure about Leon though. |
Didn't Leon leave because he wanted to play for MM not Buckley?
PS. On this board there is only one Leon, and it isn't Cameron! |
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The giants dont hunt at the contest and really lack the mongrel of finals footy. The Crows were all over them and looked heaps fitter. Mumford looked slow Jacobs killed him
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Giants are gone. Port will roll them next week.
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mudlark
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | I'll take Buckley the coach over Cameron the coach, but I'll take the entire recruiting team at GWS over the clowns in charge of recruiting at Collingwood since Malthouse left. |
I think that's a bit harsh and over the top BFC!!! The Giants have had "100" first rounders all supplied by the AFL hierarchy.Even I could do this job when you get to pick the cream of the crop ,unhindered.It's a bit different when you're left with the dregs. |
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Pebbles Rocks
Joined: 28 Sep 2008
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | I'll take Buckley the coach over Cameron the coach, but I'll take the entire recruiting team at GWS over the clowns in charge of recruiting at Collingwood since Malthouse left. |
If you had any understanding of what recruits the GWS had access (not just through the draft) you would reconsider that statement.
The GWS got far better access than even the Gold Coast.
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | I'll take Buckley the coach over Cameron the coach, but I'll take the entire recruiting team at GWS over the clowns in charge of recruiting at Collingwood since Malthouse left. |
Chad Wingard, Ollie Wines & Brodie Grundy say "Hi!"
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In my mind both Buckley and Cameron have proven to be average coaches to date and with that you get greater levels of under performance.
For us that means missing the 8 with a group that should be playing finals, for them it means not making a grand final.
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| I've thought all year that Cameron would get the arse when the Giants fail in the finals...again. |
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | I'll take Buckley the coach over Cameron the coach, but I'll take the entire recruiting team at GWS over the clowns in charge of recruiting at Collingwood since Malthouse left. |
You fail to understand the advantages that GWS have been given in the recruiting stakes by having an open cheque and a vast number of extra 1st and 2nd round draft picks over the years. An average recruiter could have achieved as good or a better results based on the unpredictability of player development.
The effect of injury on Freeman, DeGoey, Scharenberg and Elliott are major factors and I would suggest that if they had remained injury free we would be a much better team with better results.
Also, how many first and second round GWS picks have failed or have now ended up at other clubs due to lack or development and/or injury.
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Give me a bloody break!
Cameron Daddo would be a better coach! He is making Shaw's record look brilliant! Go LOOK at the team Shaw inherited! Now compare to getting the reigning double minor premiers! And managing to get them right out of the finals in just his third season! NO ONE predicted that! Even I wrote that it would take him 4 years! But he beat expectations.
This has been the most traitorous, disastrous, idiotic clusterf*ck in the history of the game! Carlton & Essendon fans (including that lousy lying Mongrel McGuire) are dead set PISSING themselves!
I'd suggest Eddie go be President of Carlton, but he's doing more for them here than they could've dreamed. He MUST be getting paid by Carlton, coz he has destroyed Collingwood for years to come. Maybe decades!
There is NO way you can call the blond tosser a coach! All these asshole commentators from other teams, sold Buckley like he was Jock himself, and we FELL for it!
I keep hearing this RAP about how he's improved! I heard the same last year! AND the year before! How many of you said "Well, I reckon he probably deserves just 1 more year" FOR FIVE YEARS!?
So TELL me you geniuses, HOW has he improved? HOW do you explain notching up the first ever handing over of a 50 point lead in the 3rd? HOW do you think the players are behind him? Because they say it in interviews???
Yeah, sure, they're gonna say exactly what they think!!! From First to 13th in just 5 years, with the list he's got is a bloody Miracle, and the numbers can't be Mae to say ANYTHING except that he is the worst we've ever had! By miles & miles!! Go read the gamely threads! He hasn’t changed a DAMN thing!
He won't change next year either! It'll be 5 goal leads in the first or second followed by a change in the strategy of the oppo coach, followed by us folding like a 7th dan Origami black belt because we don't have a coach, just a clown bashing telephones in the box!!!! Sometimes the sheer guts of our boys will get us back in it, mostly it won't.
Next year it'll be 15th/17th followed by me committing murder.
NOW ask yourself this ONE question...
If Buckley had been dumped last week, which club would have snapped him up as their Senior coach?
Come on, you know the answer...
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simon tonna
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Watched live the giants v cats not so long ago, it ended in a draw. Both teams have there up side and down like any team. Giants have individual talent but lack mongrel. Pattan should be ashamed of himself. Cameron is harder to find out there than our own Blair. It really shows how cloke was our MIP we had during the MM years.
Geelong have skills and are well drilled, they know each other better than most teams out there in the middle. But they lack pace and are two reliant on to few. Tigers to win. Both giants and cats out in straight sets.
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