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MightyMagpie
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | If we were trading for lynch and being completely dispassionate about it. This would be my deal:
pick 6
Pendlebury
2018 pick 2
Wouldn't happen but has the least impact on our flag prospects. Sidebottom could be a chance over Pendles but he is younger and would likely have less value to the Suns.
The key to a good deal for Lynch would be to give up only one player and one first round pick. |
We are required to make at least 2 first round picks in any 4 year period.
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MightyMagpie
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Can't access that link MB, but the rule came in in 2015 so 2019 makes sense no? You look back 4 years from 2019. Come 2019 we would have to have made 2 first round picks in the previous 4 years or we would be in breach no? That means planning now.
I'm flying blind without seeing that article, but that's my guess.
Can you confirm?
Edit - seems to be confirmed by this subsequent clarification by the AFL: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-08-12/the-futurepick-puzzle
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| Quote: | Every AFL club can trade its future first-round pick with stricter rules to take effect in 2019
SAM LANDSBERGER, Herald Sun
April 16, 2017 8:00pm
Subscriber only
EVERY AFL club is free to trade its future first-round pick in this year’s exchange period.
The Herald Sun has clarified future-pick trading rules and the league has for the first time released its formal guideline document.
It had been widely believed that every club must use two first-round draft picks in every rolling four-year cycle.
But the rule addresses trading a future first-round selection only when a club has used fewer than two first-round picks in the past four drafts.
BLOCKBUSTER DEAL: AFL ADMITS TO JAEGER TRADE BLUNDER
Even then, clubs can apply to the AFL for an exemption.
And according to the October 2015 document, Determination for the trading of future draft selections, the first four-year block will not come into effect until the 2019 exchange period.
The delayed introduction of future trading rules was so as not to prejudice clubs’ existing long-term list strategies.
Exemptions will be determined based on the age of players brought in through trades and what draft picks the club has used.
The Cats traded two first-round draft picks for Patrick Dangerfield. Picture: Getty Images
The future-pick document also demands that club boards authorise the trading of a future first-round selection before the trade period.
Geelong does not have a first-round pick this year, after trading it last year for Carlton’s Zach Tuohy, and last used one in 2014, drafting Nakia Cockatoo at No.10.
But the Cats are allowed to go another two years without using one.
They would also have a strong case for further leeway, after recruiting Patrick Dangerfield and using an early second-round pick last year.
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It was reported last October that the Cats had to acquire an additional first-round selection this year or next year to comply with AFL rules.
The Herald Sun this month made repeated attempts to confirm this with the AFL and, after discussions, believed that was the case.
But the Cats then contacted integrity officer Ken Wood, who confirmed the relaxed rules.
After requests from the Herald Sun last week, the AFL handed over the rules, which were signed off by legal counsel Andrew Dillon.
Geelong also traded a first-round pick for Zach Tuohy. Picture: AAP
The document has never previously been made public.
Under what had been the prevailing understanding, the Cats would have had to trade in an extra first-round pick this year or next, after they traded their 2017 first-round pick for Tuohy last year.
Cats list manager Stephen Wells admitted last October he did not believe Geelong could offload a third consecutive first-round pick to land Tuohy.
“I must admit there was a perception we couldn’t do it here myself,” he said.
“But we did check with the AFL.”
The rules reveal the league is not opposed to clubs trading a string of early selections, as long as they act responsibly.
Hawthorn’s golden era was built on shrewd deals.
From 2009 to 2014, the Hawks used just one first-round pick — taking Isaac Smith in 2010 — as they traded for proven players.
Clubs are always free to trade draft picks in the current year. |
For future reference, copy and paste the link into Google, then open the result in a private browser. Works every time.
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MightyMagpie
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Cheers MB. The subsequent article I referred to makes clear with specific reference to the Pies that we are somewhat limited this year and next as regard trading first round picks. Essentially, we would have to satisfy the AFL that we had a reasonable basis to believe we could trade a first rounder back in for each one we trade out this year and next.
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| Looks like Colingwoods recruiting strategy hasn't changed. Crameri 29 and hasn't played for 2 years. The Dogs are weighing up weather they keep Cloke or Crameri. Maybe if they decide to get rid of Cloke instead we could.....oh, no, guess not. Sounds like a 'mix up' |
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Spoke to a Dogs player I know on Friday night. If they can't secure a trade, Crameri is to be delisted is his understanding.
Wouldn't need to offer much to get him and nor would you have to pay him much. Not the worst trade in the world.
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| Cruisinwithdids wrote: | | Looks like Colingwoods recruiting strategy hasn't changed. Crameri 29 and hasn't played for 2 years. The Dogs are weighing up weather they keep Cloke or Crameri. Maybe if they decide to get rid of Cloke instead we could.....oh, no, guess not. Sounds like a 'mix up' |
Yeah because the media have the inside dope on everything ... rollseyes.gif |
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| If we gave the Dogs back what they gave us for Cloke, I can't see we would be any worse off. |
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Stewart Crameri X
Jake Stringer ✓
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| Presti35 wrote: | Stewart Crameri X
Jake Stringer ✓ |
Our forward line would look so much better with Jake Stringer in it. |
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MightyMagpie
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McClure also says that out-of-contract Bulldogs forward Stewart Crameri will sign a new contract with the club should Jake Stringer be traded.
If Channel Seven’s Mark Stevens’ report that Geelong is the primary suitor for Stringer is true, McClure considers it confirmation that Steven Motlop will be on his way out of the club at season’s end to create additional salary cap room.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/09/08/more-change-underway-at-the-dogs/
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| That is a hypothetical question. |
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Why is friggin Geelong Stringers' preffered club? Why can't it be us?
Sick of those prucks!
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