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Culprit 
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| Players don't appreciate putting in all year and then being dumped for the finals just like at local level when the Reserves make it and the Seniors fail. |
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MightyMagpie
Joined: 04 Jun 2013
Location: WA
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Hey MB, 2 quick Qs for you. 1) Is there anywhere that collates VFL player stats for the season? 2). Is there a rule about VFL finals eligibility when senior team is not playing (eg Richmond this week)? Thanks in advance.
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010
Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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1). You could try the "Footy Live" app. They're the mob who do the stats and they do collect season averages and game by game for all the major stats for the AFL listed players. Alternatively, you can manually go searching on the VFL website for the player you're after.
2). There actually is a rule for that scenario. It was an amendment introduced for last year's finals series to deal with the AFL's pre-finals bye. The new rule states that clubs in the situation Richmond are in this week can field anyone who didn't play AFL yesterday. Seeing as they only have 1 man in the injury list, that is a LOT of AFL-listed Tigers...
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barrackers
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| MagpieBat wrote: | 1). You could try the "Footy Live" app. They're the mob who do the stats and they do collect season averages and game by game for all the major stats for the AFL listed players. Alternatively, you can manually go searching on the VFL website for the player you're after.
2). There actually is a rule for that scenario. It was an amendment introduced for last year's finals series to deal with the AFL's pre-finals bye. The new rule states that clubs in the situation Richmond are in this week can field anyone who didn't play AFL yesterday. Seeing as they only have 1 man in the injury list, that is a LOT of AFL-listed Tigers... |
It actually makes very little difference to who's eligible and who isn't for Richmond, although unlike us they won't spell players or put them in for surgery due to the season ending.
Effect of that rule:
Short and Caddy would have been ineligible having played too many AFL matches, but are now eligible owing to them missing AFL selection last week. Caddy missed with a hamstring and it's highly unlikely he plays VFL. Short was dropped for form and has played the last 4 VFL games.
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barrackers
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Our only clash for points in 2017 seen us win away 14.20 104 vs 16.6 102.
Collingwood
Goal Kickers: T. Phillips 3, K. Kirby 2, M. Cox 2, J. White 2, M. Lynch, L. Tardrew, C. Mayne, L. Keeffe, C. Brown
Best Players: T. Phillips, M. Cox, G. Borthwick, J. Ramsay, J. Smith, C. Brown
Richmond
Goal Kickers: T. Stengle 4, T. Hunt 3, J. Townsend 2, T. Elton 2, T. Silvestro, B. Lennon, S. Lloyd, B. Wood, S. Bolton
Best Players: T. Hunt, J. Townsend, I. Maric, J. Ballard, T. Stengle, D. Coffield
LINEUPS
Collingwood
Beveridge, Borthwick, Brown, Close, Cox, Daicos, Hellier, Hinkley, Hore, Keeffe, Kirby, LaFontaine, Lane, Lynch, Mayne, McLarty, Ramsay, Schade, M. Smith, Tardrew, White
Ineligible for final - Phillips, J. Smith
Richmond
Aarts, Bachelor, Ballard, Beasley, Bolton, Chol, Coffield, Elton, Fletcher, Garthwaite, Griffiths, Hunt, Lennon, Lloyd, Mannagh, Maric, Markov, Menadue, Moore, Silvestro, Stengle, Townsend, Wood
DID NOT PLAY - ELIGIBLE FOR FINAL
Collingwood
Aish, Jar. Blair, Crocker, Mackie, Scharenberg, Sier, Thomas, Wills
Richmond
Caddy, Conca, C. Ellis, Hampson, Miles, Morris, Short, Soldo
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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Quite enjoyable just reading a thread that isn't full of haters.
I for one, really appreciate everyone's input on here.
Go Pies ! |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010
Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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| barrackers wrote: | Our only clash for points in 2017 seen us win away 14.20 104 vs 16.6 102.
Collingwood
Goal Kickers: T. Phillips 3, K. Kirby 2, M. Cox 2, J. White 2, M. Lynch, L. Tardrew, C. Mayne, L. Keeffe, C. Brown
Best Players: T. Phillips, M. Cox, G. Borthwick, J. Ramsay, J. Smith, C. Brown
Richmond
Goal Kickers: T. Stengle 4, T. Hunt 3, J. Townsend 2, T. Elton 2, T. Silvestro, B. Lennon, S. Lloyd, B. Wood, S. Bolton
Best Players: T. Hunt, J. Townsend, I. Maric, J. Ballard, T. Stengle, D. Coffield
LINEUPS
Collingwood
Beveridge, Borthwick, Brown, Close, Cox, Daicos, Hellier, Hinkley, Hore, Keeffe, Kirby, LaFontaine, Lane, Lynch, Mayne, McLarty, Ramsay, Schade, M. Smith, Tardrew, White
Ineligible for final - Phillips, J. Smith
Richmond
Aarts, Bachelor, Ballard, Beasley, Bolton, Chol, Coffield, Elton, Fletcher, Garthwaite, Griffiths, Hunt, Lennon, Lloyd, Mannagh, Maric, Menadue, Moore, Silvestro, Stengle, Wood
Ineligible for final - Townsend, Markov
DID NOT PLAY - ELIGIBLE FOR FINAL
Collingwood
Aish, Jar. Blair, Crocker, Mackie, Scharenberg, Sier, Thomas, Wills
Richmond
Caddy, Conca, C. Ellis, Hampson, Miles, Morris, Short, Soldo |
I was going to look at this, but you've done it quite splendidly, as always.
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MightyMagpie
Joined: 04 Jun 2013
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Thanks barrackers.
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i just dont think there is any point in playing scharenberg. Put the ferrari back in the garage until next year. no upside here.
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010
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Ben Crocker will not play on Saturday, so too Mitch McCarthy (who rumour had it was making an unexpected charge to be fit), according to this week's From Lulie Street...
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Collingwood Crackerjack
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Canberra
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| qldmagpie67 wrote: | Cheers for that MB
Couple quick things
I think it's vital for there development that Brown Kirby Daicos Cox Schade Aish Ramsay Wills that the coaches put them under extreme pressure and let them know there expected to really dominate the finals series to advance there chances of senior footy in 2018
I think Daicos and Brown showed they are going to be good players when there bodies develop they have the skills and courage just lack size and timing
Cox should be full of confidence and be a handful
Good luck to the boys and MB if things look to be going pear shape during the game I expect you to take over the coaching reigns |
All this indeed, plus the fact it would be great to send out White with a bit of sorely deserved silverware
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Collingwood Crackerjack
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
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| E wrote: | | i just dont think there is any point in playing scharenberg. Put the ferrari back in the garage until next year. no upside here. |
I'm inclined to disagree, I think a good final series would do him the world of good, with the caveat of course being that the physios think he is right to go physically.
We have a good team that can really give it a go, and I reckon we can make the prelim at least, and from there, who knows?
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barrackers
Joined: 20 Apr 2017
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Seemingly it turns out the round 23 rule doesn't rule players out (did this change from last season?), it only creates an exception allowing more players to be eligible.
Although not listed below Caddy is also eligible for Richmond under the round 23 exception. Weirdly Short is named below as fully eligible despite having played more than 12 AFL games (16 matches), this week he'd qualify having not played last week anyway.
http://vfl.com.au/finals-eligibility/
Please find below list of players eligible for Week 1 of the Peter Jackson VFL Love the Game Finals Series and AFL Victoria Development League Finals Series.
Further to the list below, any AFL Listed player who did not play in AFL Round 23 and whose VFL Club is active in Week 1 of the VFL Finals Series will be eligible to play in the VFL in the AFL Bye Round after the final round of the AFL home and away season.
Richmond Jake Aarts
Richmond Jacob Ballard
Richmond Jake Batchelor
Richmond Ryan Bathie
Richmond Hugh Beasley
Richmond Shai Bolton
Richmond Danko Bzenic
Richmond Jayden Cass
Richmond Mabior Chol
Richmond Daniel Coffield
Richmond Reece Conca
Richmond Brenton James Credlin
Richmond Sam Darley
Richmond Nathan Drummond
Richmond Corey Ellis
Richmond Todd Elton
Richmond James Fletcher
Richmond Ryan Garthwaite
Richmond Jack Graham
Richmond Benjamin Griffiths
Richmond Shaun Hampson
Richmond Alex Harnett
Richmond Jack Holden
Richmond Taylor Hunt
Richmond Tyson Kruse
Richmond Ben Lennon
Richmond Sam Lloyd
Richmond Shaun Mannagh
Richmond Ivan Maric
Richmond Oleg Markov
Richmond Connor Menadue
Richmond Anthony Miles
Richmond Callum Moore
Richmond Steven Morris
Richmond Max O’Sullivan
Richmond Anthony Scott
Richmond Jayden Short
Richmond Thomas Silvestro
Richmond Derek Smith
Richmond Ivan Soldo
Richmond Tyson Stengle
Richmond Harrison Tanner
Richmond Jacob Townsend
Richmond Brandon Wood
Collingwood James Aish
Collingwood Kye Beveridge
Collingwood Jarryd Blair
Collingwood Jack Blair
Collingwood Gus Borthwick
Collingwood Callum Brown
Collingwood Michael Chippendale
Collingwood Ash Close
Collingwood Jordan Collopy
Collingwood Mason Cox
Collingwood Ben Crocker
Collingwood Joshua Daicos
Collingwood Nicholas Gray
Collingwood Jack Hellier
Collingwood Dale Hinkley
Collingwood Marty Hore
Collingwood Lachlan Howe
Collingwood Adrian Indovino
Collingwood Lachlan Keeffe
Collingwood Jordan Kelly
Collingwood Kayle Kirby
Collingwood Matthew La Fontaine
Collingwood Campbell Lane
Collingwood Max Lynch
Collingwood Liam Mackie
Collingwood Alessandro Mastromanno
Collingwood Christopher Mayne
Collingwood Mitchell McCarthy
Collingwood Sam McLarty
Collingwood Adam Oxley
Collingwood Benjamin Paton
Collingwood Ryan Pendlebury
Collingwood Jackson Ramsay
Collingwood Henry Schade
Collingwood Matthew Scharenberg
Collingwood Brayden Sier
Collingwood Matthew Smith
Collingwood Jackson Starcevich
Collingwood Stephen Tahana
Collingwood Lachlan Tardrew
Collingwood Josh Thomas
Collingwood Joshua Turner
Collingwood Isaac Wallace
Collingwood Jesse White
Collingwood Rupert Wills
Collingwood Alex Woodward |
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MightyMagpie
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Thanks barrackers. I've not seen as much VFL as I would like this year with the reduced streaming coverage, but my impression is that we will have a pretty strong lineup and we seem to have been playing better towards the end of the season.
Looking forward to this Saturday (no AFL footy to compete with either) and hopefully we can knock them off.
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barrackers
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| MightyMagpie wrote: | Thanks barrackers. I've not seen as much VFL as I would like this year with the reduced streaming coverage, but my impression is that we will have a pretty strong lineup and we seem to have been playing better towards the end of the season.
Looking forward to this Saturday (no AFL footy to compete with either) and hopefully we can knock them off. |
If we don't spell too many we should field a stronger lineup than last time we met Richmond. While the margin then was just 2 points we dominated that game and should have smashed them. The worrying thing is Richmond will be much stronger this time around with their ins looking greater than ours. |
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