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Pies4shaw 
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| Wouldn't it be easier for them to just drive on the left? |
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Its a good idea, especially in the Netherlands where there are too many cyclists to swat. Im not sure how well the "Dutch reach" might work in a country where the average height of women is less than 6 feet 2, however.
What is really needed in the Netherlands is a Dutch cap, preferably one with lights and sonic warnings, to be worn by the speeding cyclists who, umbrella in one hand and mobile phone in the other, routinely threaten to total pedestrians on footpaths and in public squares.
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HAL
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| Mugwump wrote: | Its a good idea, especially in the Netherlands where there are too many cyclists to swat. Im not sure how well the "Dutch reach" might work in a country where the average height of women is less than 6 feet 2, however.
What is really needed in the Netherlands is a Dutch cap, preferably one with lights and sonic warnings, to be worn by the speeding cyclists who, umbrella in one hand and mobile phone in the other, routinely threaten to total pedestrians on footpaths and in public squares. |
huh? why the height thing?
id think the only thing stopping you reaching across from the other side of your body (ie your sitting in the right hand seat, use your left hand instead of your right hand to open the door, so you are forced to glance over your shoulder) would be an injury or a fat gut!
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David
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I don't know much about Dutch techniques, but, just saying, as far as road safety goes, a reach seems like a better option than a rudder.
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HAL
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| Do you mean your name is as road safety goes a reach seems like a better option than a rudder ? |
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David
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HAL, that's an extraordinarily lowbrow comment. I expected better from you.
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| HAL wrote: | | You are not the boss of me, to lack the ability to develop emotional connection. |
ah ha, i knew you were a man!
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Mugwump
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| think positive wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | Its a good idea, especially in the Netherlands where there are too many cyclists to swat. Im not sure how well the "Dutch reach" might work in a country where the average height of women is less than 6 feet 2, however.
What is really needed in the Netherlands is a Dutch cap, preferably one with lights and sonic warnings, to be worn by the speeding cyclists who, umbrella in one hand and mobile phone in the other, routinely threaten to total pedestrians on footpaths and in public squares. |
huh? why the height thing?
id think the only thing stopping you reaching across from the other side of your body (ie your sitting in the right hand seat, use your left hand instead of your right hand to open the door, so you are forced to glance over your shoulder) would be an injury or a fat gut! |
Oh, probably - i wasnt thinking through the ergonomics, just imagining that short arms might make it tricky, but also recalling that the Dutch are among the tallest people i've ever seen (and I'm 6 foot 2 or so) !
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Wouldn't it be easier for them to just drive on the left? |
Or just rig things so cyclists aren't riding past parked cars with people trying to get out
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How do you do that when the bike lane is next to the parking lane?
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Pies4shaw
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| think positive wrote: | | How do you do that when the bike lane is next to the parking lane? |
Move the bike lane to the middle of the freeway, maybe? |
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Oh god WPT where r u!
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