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Piesnchess
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One can live in hope. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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Oh you can, can you? |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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Dose of reality here please. We are practically a certainty to make the 8. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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But not in 2017. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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We're only a mathematical chance, and with three tough games to play, you'd have to be crazily optimistic to think we can still make it. But with Port struggling, Geelong our bunnies and Melbourne unpredictable, we have at least an outside chance in all three games. So, if we somehow win all three, can we still play finals?
I've been doing the maths on this so you don't have to, and the answer is yes – but we need a number of results to go our way. Here are the teams above us that are still within striking distance:
5. Port 44
6. Sydney 44
7. Bulldogs 44
8. Essendon 40
9. West Coast 40
10. Melbourne 40
11. St. Kilda 40
To play finals, we can only afford for three of those seven teams to finish above us. For that to happen, each of Port, Sydney and the Bulldogs only need to win one game out of their next three, while each of Essendon, West Coast, Melbourne and St Kilda need to win two.
Here are the list of those teams' games for the next three rounds (not counting our match-ups with Port and Melbourne). Where results seem pretty likely, I've bolded the presumed winners:
Round 21:
Bulldogs vs GWS
Sydney vs Fremantle
Essendon vs Adelaide
West Coast vs Carlton
Melbourne vs St Kilda
Round 22:
Adelaide vs Sydney
Bulldogs vs Port
GWS vs West Coast
Gold Coast vs Essendon
Melbourne vs Brisbane
St Kilda vs North
Round 23:
Hawthorn vs Bulldogs
Sydney vs Carlton
Port vs Gold Coast
Essendon vs Fremantle
Richmond vs St Kilda
West Coast vs Adelaide
If those bolded teams win as expected, we'll already have three teams finishing above us: Port, Sydney and whoever wins out of Melbourne and St Kilda. That means that, if we win all our games, we'll be relying on the following results to go our way, barring major upsets:
Port to beat the Bulldogs
Hawthorn to beat the Bulldogs
Fremantle to beat Essendon
Adelaide to beat West Coast
Edit: sorry, didn't notice the existing thread on this! _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Apart from blowing wins against the Crows and Giants, it's a shame the Blues couldn't have beaten the Bummers on the weekend. That would have swung things back in our favour considerably. In any case, we will probably lose at least one of our remaining 3 games anyway. Nevertheless, it shows to me just how close we are to being a finals team, and in fact a top 4 team. Think back to our opening few games against the Dogs and Tigers, where our shocking inaccuracy in front of goal cost us big time. Had we won those games, and beaten GWS and Crows, we'd be in the top 4 right now. Still, if your Aunty...... |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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David wrote: |
That means that, if we win all our games, we'll be relying on the following results to go our way, barring major upsets:
Port to beat the Bulldogs
Hawthorn to beat the Bulldogs
Fremantle to beat Essendon
Adelaide to beat West Coast
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I think those 4 are a great chance of falling our way David.
Port & Hawks to beat the sliding Dogs - yep
Freo to make it 2 from 2 at Etihad and beat the bombers. - yep
I can't believe you even have the WCE v Crows game in the equation The egirls will be lucky to win another game.
Again, the draw against Adelaide was as good as a win! We will finish 2 points clear of 3 sides, that, if we had lost to the cows, would keep us out by %.
Skids wrote: | I think we'll finish 8th
Crows 66
Tigers 60
Giants 60
Swans 56
Cats 54
Port 48
Dogs 48
Pies 46
The draw with the cows is priceless... makes % irrelevant
4 on 44; eagles, bombers, dees & saints |
_________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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I agree, mostly! The only bad thing about the draw is that we could have caught the Bulldogs on percentage if we'd won. Now we need them to lose all three games. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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Well, the dream could be over this afternoon if we lose to Port as expected – but so far results are falling into place as expected (Bulldogs and Essendon losing). Would have been nice for the Blues to knock off West Coast, but they're probably going to get slaughtered in the next two weeks anyway. Marginally better for us for St Kilda to get up today, though it doesn't matter overly – the best result by far would be a draw! _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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Just gota win.
Unwanted by the punters, now out to as much as $3.60.
Same market move away from us when we beat the cats earlier on this year. _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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Luigitheunbelievable
Joined: 09 Aug 2017 Location: Ringwood. Victoria. Australia
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Hi Folks.
I reckon some of you blokes have too much time on your hands.
But geez, I hope you are right! C"mon boys!!
Regards, all. _________________ Side by side we stick together. |
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selkevh
Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane
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RudeBoy wrote: | Apart from blowing wins against the Crows and Giants, it's a shame the Blues couldn't have beaten the Bummers on the weekend. That would have swung things back in our favour considerably. In any case, we will probably lose at least one of our remaining 3 games anyway. Nevertheless, it shows to me just how close we are to being a finals team, and in fact a top 4 team. Think back to our opening few games against the Dogs and Tigers, where our shocking inaccuracy in front of goal cost us big time. Had we won those games, and beaten GWS and Crows, we'd be in the top 4 right now. Still, if your Aunty...... |
And the Demons' game. _________________ A strong man stands up for himself ... a stronger man stands up for others. |
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i hate carlton
Joined: 05 May 2014
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princem007
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Oh no we can't . Another wasted year. _________________ Go Pies...Premiers 2010 |
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Location: We prefer free speech - you know it's right
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Can the mods please close this thread, it's done. _________________ All Aboard!! Choo Choo!!! |
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