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ronrat 



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:33 am
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npalm wrote:
Wokko wrote:
44. Any person who -

(i.) Is under any acknowledgement of allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power, or is a subject or a citizen or entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or citizen of a foreign power:


So, hypothetically, if we were at war with another country, could that country deliberately create parliamentary havoc for us by granting citizenship to all our parliamentarians? Wink


Technically yes. But a mass denunciation of said citizenship offer. I dare say the High Court would be reluctant to do anything about it because surely they Paliament could have some sort of joint sitting and sack all the judges as traitors.

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Now it's come to a head and the suggestion is up to 14 MP's are heading to the High Court. A few seats that could go either way makes it even more interesting.
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It's like three-quarter time in a close Grand Final.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
It's like three-quarter time in a close Grand Final.
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David Feeney, Labor factional hack par excellence, is gaaawn. The Greens will win his seat easily this time. Ive tried to avoid feelings of schadenfreude throughout this whole process; why must the universe tempt me so!?
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SUMMARY (Update):

MPs and Senators with dual citizenship who are ineligible for Parliament:

- Scott Ludlam (Greens)
- Larissa Waters (Greens)
- Malcolm Roberts (One Nation)
- Barnaby Joyce (Coalition)
- Fiona Nash (Coalition)

MPs and Senators with dual citizenship but not ineligible for Parliament:
- Matt Canavan (Coalition)
- Nick Xenophon (Nick Xenophon Team) - Subsequently resigned

Other MPs and Senators who have resigned
- Stephen Parry (Coalition)
- John Alexander (Coalition)
- Jacqui Lambie (Jacqui Lambie Network)
- Skye Kakoschke-Moore (Nick Xenophon Team)

OTHER MPS AND SENATORS WHOSE STATUS IS YET TO BE DETERMINED:

British citizenship concerns
- David Feeney (Labor)
- Katy Gallagher (Labor) - May also possess Ecuadorian citizenship
- Pauline Hanson (One Nation)
- Justine Keay (Labor)
- Susan Lamb (Labor)
- Rebekha Sharkie (Nick Xenophon Team) - May also possess US citizenship
- Ann Sudmalis (Coalition)
- Josh Wilson (Labor)

Greek citizenship concerns
- Julia Banks (Coalition)
- Alex Hawke (Coalition)
- Arthur Sinodinos (Coalition)

Other foreign allegiance concerns
- Josh Frydenberg (Coalition)
- Nola Marino (Coalition)

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David wrote:
David Feeney, Labor factional hack par excellence, is gaaawn. The Greens will win his seat easily this time. Ive tried to avoid feelings of schadenfreude throughout this whole process; why must the universe tempt me so!?

After the recent Northcote state by-election, I think the Greens will win comfortably here.

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Anyone watching Question Time right now? Labor and the crossbenchers are moving to refer nine MPs to the High Court. Wonder if someone like George Christensen will cross the floor and get the vote passed. Popcorn required!
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Its a tie, and the speaker votes it down. The government breathes a sigh of relief...
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Katy Gallagher and David Feeney have been referred to the High Court.
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Here's the Court's reasons published today for excluding Hollie Hughes from taking the vacancy created last month by Fiona Nash's ineligibility to take her seat because she was a foreigner (that lived in the house that Jack built): http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2017/52.html
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David wrote:
Its a tie, and the speaker votes it down. The government breathes a sigh of relief...
There's a good reason why Turnbull had a week off. My new Favourite word for our MP's
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And now we have another independent crossbencher, with Lambie doing a Hanson and summarily kicking Steve Martin out of her party.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/jacqui-lambie-expels-senator-steve-martin-from-party-for-denying-her-return-to-parliament-20180207-h0vpsq.html

If anyone's been following the changes to the crossbench since last election, it goes:

Scott Ludlam (Greens) ---> Replaced by Jordan Steele-John (Greens)
Larissa Waters (Greens) ---> Replaced by Andrew Bartlett (Greens)
Cory Bernardi (Liberal, now Australian Conservatives)
Bob Day (Family First) ---> Replaced by Lucy Gichuhi (Family First, then independent, now Liberal)
Jacqui Lambie (JLN) ---> Replaced by Steve Martin (Independent)
Rod Culleton (One Nation, then independent) ---> Replaced by Peter Georgiou (One Nation)
Malcolm Roberts (One Nation) ---> Replaced by Fraser Anning (One Nation, now independent)
Nick Xenophon (NXT) ---> Replaced by Rex Patrick (NXT)
Skye Kakoschke-Moore (NXT) ---> set to be replaced by Tim Storer (Independent)

Apart from the other seven Greens, only Pauline Hanson (ONP), Brian Burston (ONP), Stirling Griff (NXT), David Leyonhjelm (LDP) and Derryn Hinch (Justice Party) have survived the revolving door, and six seats have changed party affiliations (two of them twice!). Keeping in mind that senators are usually elected for six-year terms, that's quite a body count...

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Lets not forget Susan Lamb, still a duel citizen, as she needs a copy of her parents marriage certificate apparently to be able to renounce.

She reckons her Dad's dead and she doesn't talk to her mum, so can't get it.

Dunno how hard she tried, depending where they were married, kids can apply for a copy of parents marriage cert under conditions and can make special application to the registrar if they don't meet the conditions.

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^ Yeah, I didn't list the major party politicians that list is substantial and still growing!
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