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Cruisinwithdids 



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:31 pm
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The only veteran coaches worth consideration are Roos and Clarkson. Only one of them are available and we wouldn't want to have to talk him into it. This appointment may sit with young coaches who are not previous favourite sons with massive egos anointed by the president. We have made that mistake. Hoping for one of Solomon, Dew or Barker. Having said that you'd take Roos in a heartbeat if he wanted the job because he knows how to help a club achieve sustainable succession plans, something Collingwood have been terrible at due to their obsession with the personality that is the current coach. We need to put that behind us and concentrate on building a sustainable club that doesn't rely on the performance of one person.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:29 am
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Cruisinwithdids wrote:
The only veteran coaches worth consideration are Roos and Clarkson. Only one of them are available and we wouldn't want to have to talk him into it. This appointment may sit with young coaches who are not previous favourite sons with massive egos anointed by the president. We have made that mistake. Hoping for one of Solomon, Dew or Barker. Having said that you'd take Roos in a heartbeat if he wanted the job because he knows how to help a club achieve sustainable succession plans, something Collingwood have been terrible at due to their obsession with the personality that is the current coach. We need to put that behind us and concentrate on building a sustainable club that doesn't rely on the performance of one person.


I tend to agree, honestly I believe Roos IS the safest and most reliable available option to mend the club in the short to medium term (as long as it's not just, as you said 'talking him into it'). Sure Roos is a mercenary, but that's not necessarily a bad thing, he respects Eddie and Eddie respects him, it counts for a lot. For long term I think all of the three you mention above are good candidates for taking over once Roos work is done and he departs.

We need to understand that 'yes' things are actually that bad at the club right now that we have to totally reset what we're all about and how to get there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:29 pm
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Yeah, Buckley has well and truly frigged us over. We need a coach who can develop a list from scratch rather than one who can fill a few gaps and create a premiership calibre team.

We're 5-7 years away from contending for a flag, 3-4 years away from finals.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:55 pm
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Eddie shot Wilson and all the others down and called them out before tonight's game and said they should all be held to account for peddling lies refutes any meetings with Roos who, when directly asked by Eddie if they had a meeting categoricaly denied it. Also mentioned than when Wilson said he secretly met Scott he was in fact, on a plane , intransit fromLondon to Italy😳. He was not happy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:37 am
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First and best choice would be Clarkson. Assuming he's not gettable, the second best choice would be Ratten, for three sound reasons:

1. He showed at Carlton he can coach. He got dumped because Malthouse was available and the Carlton Board made a dumb decision.
2. He sat next to Clarkson and watched him win three flags. He just may have picked something up along the way.
3. If Ratten had success at Collingwood, imagine how pissed off Carlton supporters would be!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:00 pm
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Harrysz wrote:
First and best choice would be Clarkson. Assuming he's not gettable, the second best choice would be Ratten, for three sound reasons:

1. He showed at Carlton he can coach. He got dumped because Malthouse was available and the Carlton Board made a dumb decision.
2. He sat next to Clarkson and watched him win three flags. He just may have picked something up along the way.
3. If Ratten had success at Collingwood, imagine how pissed off Carlton supporters would be!


Good observations , would probably the most ready made candidate , but I reckon Dew would be good as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:13 pm
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Rattan was a good coach.
Always had a game plan that competed well against Coll.
Only when Mick replaced him did Coll comfortably defeat Carlton for a few years on end.

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I don't think our list in premiership quality so my preference would be similar to what Melbourne did.
Bring in a experienced senior coach who can recruit and set the standards whilst the coach in waiting works closely with the senior coach to develop the game style/plan we are going to play.
Roos did a good job of that at Melbourne whether he wants to do it again only he knows.
There are some highly regarded assistants out there who might be ready to go or very close to it and Roos would be a valuable mentor for them in th short term.
If we decide we need instant success we will be very busy at the trade table filling some gaps and we will lose some players who some supporters may deem not to be traded. But if you want to land a big fish or a ready made very good player you have to give up something in return.
If that's the case then going for a Ratten would make perfect sense. I thought he was doing ok at Carlton but they got sucked into the hype of having MM who convinced them they had a premiership caliber team and look how that turned out.
Either way I just want the club to land the best possible candidate who can provide us with a sound base for long term finals success
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:35 pm
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Harrysz wrote:
First and best choice would be Clarkson. Assuming he's not gettable, the second best choice would be Ratten, for three sound reasons:

1. He showed at Carlton he can coach. He got dumped because Malthouse was available and the Carlton Board made a dumb decision.
2. He sat next to Clarkson and watched him win three flags. He just may have picked something up along the way.
3. If Ratten had success at Collingwood, imagine how pissed off Carlton supporters would be!


I'd have Ratten as coach any time.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:54 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
Yeah, Buckley has well and truly frigged us over. We need a coach who can develop a list from scratch rather than one who can fill a few gaps and create a premiership calibre team.

We're 5-7 years away from contending for a flag, 3-4 years away from finals.


Rubbish. This team could easily make finals next year. Regardless of who coaches it. The hysteria in the media about our so called poor list management is being swallowed far too easily by many here.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:59 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
Yeah, Buckley has well and truly frigged us over. We need a coach who can develop a list from scratch rather than one who can fill a few gaps and create a premiership calibre team.

We're 5-7 years away from contending for a flag, 3-4 years away from finals.


Come back to me when Bucks has us in the top 4 next season. Seriously, all we need is a couple of decent KPPs and we are a contender.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:48 pm
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And a coach.
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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:15 pm
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Damien wrote:
What'sinaname wrote:
Yeah, Buckley has well and truly frigged us over. We need a coach who can develop a list from scratch rather than one who can fill a few gaps and create a premiership calibre team.

We're 5-7 years away from contending for a flag, 3-4 years away from finals.


Rubbish. This team could easily make finals next year.The hysteria in the media about our so called poor list management is being swallowed far too easily by many here.


fixed by:

add a KPP each end and

Pies4shaw wrote:
And a coach.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:16 pm
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RudeBoy wrote:
What'sinaname wrote:
Yeah, Buckley has well and truly frigged us over. We need a coach who can develop a list from scratch rather than one who can fill a few gaps and create a premiership calibre team.

We're 5-7 years away from contending for a flag, 3-4 years away from finals.


Come back to me when Bucks has us in the top 4 next season. Seriously, all we need is a couple of decent KPPs and we are a contender.


He's not going to be here next year.

If he is Eddie will have a revolt on his hands and only the blind faithful follow as they have their eyes and minds well and truly shut.

Regardless of anyway Eddie wants to spin it, the facts are that whenever Bucks coaching regime has been challenged to stand up, it has only fallen further over.

People have had enough, the dream is over.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:28 pm
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Harrysz wrote:
First and best choice would be Clarkson. Assuming he's not gettable, the second best choice would be Ratten, for three sound reasons:

1. He showed at Carlton he can coach. He got dumped because Malthouse was available and the Carlton Board made a dumb decision.
2. He sat next to Clarkson and watched him win three flags. He just may have picked something up along the way.
3. If Ratten had success at Collingwood, imagine how pissed off Carlton supporters would be!


this 100% for all the reasons, but gees, i hope we have tentacles out for clarkson already, be disappointed if we havent.

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