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Mugwump 



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:18 pm
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^ lots of them have a social conscience, TP.

It's just that this is too often equated with working for some "worthy" (read: Leftish) organization for money, rather than (i) working hard for any reputable employer or starting a reputable business ; (ii) raising a responsible family ; (iii) acting with thoughtful integrity in all things, and (iv) actually sacrificing personal time or money to care for those who really need it, rather than just grandstanding about it.

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting your daughter doesn't do those things. I am just reflecting on the shallow, superficial way the young (and we, as a society at large) conceives of "social conscience" nowadays.

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stui magpie wrote:
Captain America won't cut it. If this country is going to have a future it will be the working class people who will make it once the over educated nuff nuffs and their hipster mates stuff things up and get jettisoned.


Laughing I had to google Captain America - I thought you were talking about the Donald!

There is some merit in that but really the boomers need to start putting the environment and the planet before profits and dividends otherwise......

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:22 pm
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We'll all be fine, provided we deal with the Triple Threat Destroying Western Civilization - terrorism, bureaucracy and the erosion of tradition.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:49 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
Captain America won't cut it. If this country is going to have a future it will be the working class people who will make it once the over educated nuff nuffs and their hipster mates stuff things up and get jettisoned.


Steady on, Winston. Wink (Funnily enough, this is the same thing all my Marxist acquaintances are saying at the moment...)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
We'll all be fine, provided we deal with the Triple Threat Destroying Western Civilization - terrorism, bureaucracy and the erosion of tradition.

Great to see 19th-century rural American evangelicalism and fundamentalist European Catholicism harmonising as one on Trump's EU trip. Oh the tyranny of distance which has hitherto kept them apart.

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:10 am
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David wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
Captain America won't cut it. If this country is going to have a future it will be the working class people who will make it once the over educated nuff nuffs and their hipster mates stuff things up and get jettisoned.


Steady on, Winston. Wink (Funnily enough, this is the same thing all my Marxist acquaintances are saying at the moment...)


hah, funny thing about that is those Marxists wouldn't know real working class people if they spilled their soy decaf latte on them Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:09 am
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Not fair. I once met a poor person. It was a disaffecting experience. I showered for hours afterwards.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:22 am
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Yeah, have you ever noticed that the Socialist Workers Party never has any workers in it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:59 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
We'll all be fine, provided we deal with the Triple Threat Destroying Western Civilization - terrorism, bureaucracy and the erosion of tradition.


Crikey! I just read about that speech. Encroaching forces from the south and east, indeed!

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think positive Libra

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Society can kiss my arse today. A couple of members of our society decided to cut the fence of the block next door, and steal our car trailer, complete with spare wheels last night. Smart society, cut the last panel from our house, and took it the opposite way, away from our cameras! Will check the neighbours later.
And the vultures looking for a ridiculous price on the things we are selling for my BIL's widow, all already at very reasonable prices. Hubby actually went to the doc last night, he never goes, feeling off, blood pressure a little high, but I don't need a doc to tell me he's simply broken hearted, trying to put his beloved brother to rest. Hopefully we can sell everything tomorrow, and start to heal. And the trailer thieves? &%%& you, may karma bring you nothing but pain until that trailer becomes rust.

Meanwhile, the sun is out, its cold, but it's out. And we live to fight another day! Jus drein, Jus daun!

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:41 pm
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Oh crap, sorry to hear that. Sad hope you can get that back, or at least be compensated for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:44 pm
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Don't worry about it, to lack the ability to develop emotional connection.
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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:25 pm
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David wrote:
Oh crap, sorry to hear that. Sad hope you can get that back, or at least be compensated for it.

nah, its only insured if its at our workshop - thats where it usually lives! hubby used it to transport some things for for sale and he hadnt taken it back yet. its a custom job and its pretty distinctive so we will keep an eye out. we bought it 2nd hand, it owes us about $2000 but its more the feeling of invasion! When we got the cameras i suggested buying 2 more to hook into the system, now im just going to order them!
good wakeup call, we have had more expensive stuff stored there before. but i still wish them bad Karma!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:31 pm
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think positive wrote:
Society can kiss my arse today. A couple of members of our society decided to cut the fence of the block next door, and steal our car trailer, complete with spare wheels last night. Smart society, cut the last panel from our house, and took it the opposite way, away from our cameras! Will check the neighbours later.
And the vultures looking for a ridiculous price on the things we are selling for my BIL's widow, all already at very reasonable prices. Hubby actually went to the doc last night, he never goes, feeling off, blood pressure a little high, but I don't need a doc to tell me he's simply broken hearted, trying to put his beloved brother to rest. Hopefully we can sell everything tomorrow, and start to heal. And the trailer thieves? &%%& you, may karma bring you nothing but pain until that trailer becomes rust.

Meanwhile, the sun is out, its cold, but it's out. And we live to fight another day! Jus drein, Jus daun!


geez, that shows some planning. Cutting the fence isn't just a random act, someone has scoped that out and planned it, including noting where the cameras were.

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Yeah I know, just before we went away I told hubby I'd seen someone taking too much interest, but I was upstairs and didn't get the plate. We had a caravan in there st the time. At least they didn't damage our ranger or Ian's truck, try took what they wanted and that was it
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