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Nathan Buckley - What should the club do with him?
Sack him now (not playing finals, get started on a replacement)
25%
 25%  [ 35 ]
Sack him end of season (not the man but why concede the year now?)
8%
 8%  [ 12 ]
Sack him on the run home (if the wheels have really fallen off)
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
Decide end of season (I'm still in his corner)
10%
 10%  [ 14 ]
Decide end of season (He's just not up to it)
6%
 6%  [ 9 ]
Decide end of season (I'm honestly undecided)
11%
 11%  [ 16 ]
Re-sign him on the run home (fait accompli, just pick our moment)
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Re-sign him end of season (he's the man, but no need to rush)
8%
 8%  [ 12 ]
Re-sign him now (he WILL be our next premiership coach!)
18%
 18%  [ 25 ]
I really don't know (but I will back the club whatever it decides)
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 4%  [ 6 ]
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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:08 am
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Collingwood 4 eternity wrote:
Albert Parker wrote:
Carey linking Roos to the job. He's headed down the same path I was 2 months ago.


Tony Shaw on the 3aw pre match (ad v syd) said that a Lyon/Roos combo to be at Collingwood next year

Lyon coach , Roos Director of coaching?


Whoa. Wow. Oh man. 2 big names. Don't be a tease.

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BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:
Extension or not, this club is going nowhere until it recognises the importance of key positional players in the team.


100%.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:16 am
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
swoop42 wrote:
Every premiership coach was once a rookie coach desperate to prove himself so that in itself shouldn't be a disqualifier.

It doesn't always work out but taking a chance on something better is always the right direction to take rather than sticking with something that is shown to be not quite right because of the fear of uncertainty.

In the age of the top 8 any coach surviving beyond the point we have reached with Nathan is very unlikely. Given the solid foundation he had to build from I don't see any justification for the basic pass mark of finals not to be reached again in 2017.

The beautiful irony in all this is that Nathan himself has shown far more awareness of his situation than his supporters when he declared that he didn't expect to be reappointed should we not play finals.

Question now is does one E. McGuire have the same ability as the coach to make a frank and honest assessment of the situation based purely on the cold hard evidence of the past 6 seasons or will emotion win out?


I expect the Board to extend Bucks contract, after considering all the facts, including an assessment of Buck's abilities from the senior players and others in the footy department. This will be an informed decision, unlike the kneejerk calls for his sacking from many armchair experts, who are unaware of the complexity of factors which determine success or failure on the football field.


After all that's happened, how can you still think that. And knee jerk?!? Please. Look, I'm trying hard to not throw the boot in - imo we should all, as Bucks even said himself.. take a breath, and wait and see. I want him out, bad... real bad. But I must admit, the deep seeded regard for him as a player, has even me shedding a tear for the poor fellow, it just wasn't his time. Now lets wait and see what happens.


I got to admit I'm in two minds now. The thought of his stoic face walking out the club. We have played some good football towards the end of the year. But we don't have the cattle to make it work. And that surely leads to the coaches door as well as the weird game plan. I need a crystal ball. I want to see the first two games from next year. Will the writing be on the wall? It's been six long years of going backwards. If only the mentor thing could have worked. I don't really think there was ever a real apprenticeship judging by Micks departure. Not much of Micks game plan or tactics remain. Mick was a defender start to finish. Now defence seems like the dumping ground for failed forwards. I do think though, that what ever happens is already decided. A flogging today or a miracle win won't change much. I'm not sad I can't go today, I hate geeeelong supporters with an over the top passion. They just pisss me off! And with two rounds to go, the bastards will fire. I've been to more losses than wins this year. That's sad.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:39 am
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think positive said
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I've been to more losses than wins this year.


Just having a wee whinge, but the number of wins saved on my TV set is 3, yes 3. I don't have Foxtel, and because they tend to show Giants and Swans games up here, all the Magpie wins get gazumped. It's a Blair of a season, I tell you, compared to an Abbott of a season last year...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:54 am
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Collingwood 4 eternity wrote:
Albert Parker wrote:
Carey linking Roos to the job. He's headed down the same path I was 2 months ago.


Tony Shaw on the 3aw pre match (ad v syd) said that a Lyon/Roos combo to be at Collingwood next year

Lyon coach , Roos Director of coaching?


Had Tony Shaw been drinking or smoking something - I doubt these two could ever make a go of this sort of arrangement.

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Tony Shaw certainly doesn't impress me as being the smartest tool in the shed. So to float this idea in the same week that Ross Lyon, Fremantle and Eddie Maguire emphatically and aggressively went after Brad Hardie for a similar claim as an outright fabricated lie, beggars belief.
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Nathan Buckley will be head coach in 2018. That's what the players want, end of storey.
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Adam Treloar 3 Votes wrote:
Nathan Buckley will be head coach in 2018. That's what the players want, end of storey.


If you think that our coaching selection should be based solely upon what the players want then we're really screwed.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:12 pm
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The Herald Sun has an update...

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His time at Collingwood featured 1999 games from 2005-14


Phew. No wonder he's a bit grumpy.
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Adam Treloar 3 Votes wrote:
Nathan Buckley will be head coach in 2018. That's what the players want, end of storey.


So the tail wags the dog now does it?

We're screwed.

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Let's just wait and see
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ROB wrote:
Collingwood 4 eternity wrote:
Albert Parker wrote:
Carey linking Roos to the job. He's headed down the same path I was 2 months ago.


Tony Shaw on the 3aw pre match (ad v syd) said that a Lyon/Roos combo to be at Collingwood next year

Lyon coach , Roos Director of coaching?


Had Tony Shaw been drinking or smoking something - I doubt these two could ever make a go of this sort of arrangement.

Wasn't Lyon Roos' assistant when the Swans won the flag in 2005?
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Pies4shaw wrote:
ROB wrote:
Collingwood 4 eternity wrote:
Albert Parker wrote:
Carey linking Roos to the job. He's headed down the same path I was 2 months ago.


Tony Shaw on the 3aw pre match (ad v syd) said that a Lyon/Roos combo to be at Collingwood next year

Lyon coach , Roos Director of coaching?


Had Tony Shaw been drinking or smoking something - I doubt these two could ever make a go of this sort of arrangement.

Wasn't Lyon Roos' assistant when the Swans won the flag in 2005?


make it happen

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I think Tony might have run into another tree these last few days.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
ROB wrote:
Collingwood 4 eternity wrote:
Albert Parker wrote:
Carey linking Roos to the job. He's headed down the same path I was 2 months ago.


Tony Shaw on the 3aw pre match (ad v syd) said that a Lyon/Roos combo to be at Collingwood next year

Lyon coach , Roos Director of coaching?


Had Tony Shaw been drinking or smoking something - I doubt these two could ever make a go of this sort of arrangement.

Wasn't Lyon Roos' assistant when the Swans won the flag in 2005?


A slightly different arrangement I would suggest.

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