Border Control (Saudi Arabia issues demands to Qatar)

[Mugwump]

14% in the U.K. Compared to ca 5% of the population. Could have many root causes of course but it adds to a bad story overall. A lot of our "martyrs" seem to have been radicalized in prison, too. I suppose you'd have to correct for socioeconomic and other factors to get a sense of whether criminality is disproportionate and the possible causes.

[David]

Do you have the link there, Stui? Those certainly do seem to be surprising statistics.

[stui magpie]

[David]

Thanks for that. They don't source either statistic, but I'm guessing the 9% figure is more well-established than the 20% one, which may be correct but is kind of presented as hearsay.

Seeing as how the vast majority of those prisoners would be doing time for crimes that have nothing to do with their religious beliefs, I think we have to look elsewhere for a cause – I'd be interested to see whether such figures correlate with higher proportions of Muslims suffering from socioeconomic disadvantage or participating in immigrant gang activity, for instance.

[stui magpie]

I also saw something in the Daily Mail which quoted a similar percentage of muslims in the high security prisons in England. That one also made mention of the number of inmates converting to Islam while in prison.

[Culprit]

^^Islam is the poor persons religion. The woe is me religion.

[HAL]

What else is the poor persons religion?

[Skids]

Not all the extremist Muslims in the High Risk Management Correctional Centre, Supermax’s official name, were convicted of plotting terrorist acts.

Some of them are murderers and originally from Christian families, who converted to Islam behind bars.

But as The Australian reported, Islam has become an obsession for the violent inmates who practice the religion inside Supermax.


Inside Australia’s ‘Super mosque’ prison where guards fear radical Muslims are plotting terrorist acts

For this reason Supermax, a jail inside NSW”s grimmest correctional complex 195km southwest of Sydney, is often referred to as “Super mosque”.

And as the national newspaper exclusively revealed, even the state’s prisons commissioner Peter Severin acknowledges that Supermax and its majority of inmates who are either convicted of terrorism offences or on remand awaiting trial, is a hotbed of radical Islam.

Mr Severin has recommended new laws be drawn up to detain up to 11 convicted terrorists beyond their prison terms.

One of the first Pendennis men to walk free from jail was Khaled Sharrouf, released after four years for having bomb-making materials in 2009.

In 2013, he fled Australia on a borrowed passport to fight with ISIS in Syria.

It is unclear whether Sharrouf, who took his family to Syria and famously posted online photographs of his son holding the severed heads of ISIS victims, has died in battle.

It is believed his comrade-in-arms, Mohamed Elomar, did perish in a rocket attack in Syria or Iraq.

http://www.news.com.au/news/inside-australias-supermosque-prison-where-guards-fear-radical-muslims-are-plotting-terrorist-acts/news-story/a83bbc4be2840f735ec212f2978b307d

[HAL]

But some are.

[Skids]

FactCheck Q&A: do refugees cost Australia $100m a year in welfare, with an unemployment rate of 97%?

The unemployment rate is calculated as the number of unemployed as a percentage of the number who have a job plus those unemployed and looking for work.

That means the non-employment rate – i.e those who are unemployed plus those outside the labour force altogether – is 72% for men and 90% for women, giving an overall non-employment rate of close to 81%.

Employment increases over time. So the ABS survey also shows that in 2013 only 19% had a job, but over the 10 years covered by the survey, 36% had a job at some time.

The position on the costs of refugees to the social security system is more complicated.

The ABS survey shows that in 2013 around 59% of refugees and former refugees had government social security benefits as their main source of income

http://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-do-refugees-cost-australia-100m-a-year-in-welfare-with-an-unemployment-rate-of-97-54395

[ronrat]

One of the first Pendennis men to walk free from jail was Khaled Sharrouf, released after four years for having bomb-making materials in 2009.

In 2013, he fled Australia on a borrowed passport to fight with ISIS in Syria.

It is unclear whether Sharrouf, who took his family to Syria and famously posted online photographs of his son holding the severed heads of ISIS victims, has died in battle.

It is believed his comrade-in-arms, Mohamed Elomar, did perish in a rocket attack in Syria or Iraq.

http://www.news.com.au/news/inside-australias-supermosque-prison-where-guards-fear-radical-muslims-are-plotting-terrorist-acts/news-story/a83bbc4be2840f735ec212f2978b307d[/quote]

Good idea. Remove all protection stauts to Sharrouf and his families,They should never ever be allowed back and legislate to stop the inevitable asylum lawyer industry form going to court. If he dies, his problem.

I agree that the figures can be distrorted. A lot of the aboriginal kids follow choc Mundine who followed Muhammed Ali. The majority when they get out will abandon it when they can't eat McDonalds, Can't go to a pub and the girlfriend tells him to bugger off when he says she has to wear a burqua.

[David]

Have you seen this link in the article, Skids?

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-13/peter-dutton-defends-work-rights-process-for-asylum-seekers/6389996?pfmredir=sm

[David]

[Skids]

Sweden: Leaked police report lists eight new No-Go Areas, now 23 in total
June 12, 2017

There exist parallel structures of society, police experience difficulties in fulfilling its mission, which is partly due to an unwillingness of the population to participate in legal proceedings, proximity to other vulnerable areas, and violent religious (i.e. ‘Islamic’) extremism is rife.

https://theoldcontinent.eu/sweden-no-go/

Germany: Migrant Sex Crimes Double in One Year

June 12, 2017

An annual report — Criminality in the Context of Migration (Kriminalität im Kontext von Zuwanderung) — published by the Federal Criminal Police Office (Bundeskriminalamt, BKA) on April 27 revealed an increase of nearly 500% in migrant sex crimes (defined as sexual assaults, rapes and sexual abuse of children) during the past four years.

The report showed that migrants (Zuwanderer, defined as asylum seekers, refugees and illegal immigrants) committed 3,404 sex crimes in 2016 — around nine per day. This was a 102% increase over 2015, when migrants committed 1,683 sex crimes — around five per day. By comparison, migrants committed 949 sex crimes in 2014, around three per day; and 599 sex crimes in 2013, around two per day.

According to the report, the main offenders in 2016 were from: Syria (up 318.7% from 2015); Afghanistan (up 259.3%); Iraq (up 222.7%); Pakistan (up 70.3%); Iran (up 329.7%); Algeria (up 100%); and Morocco (up 115.7%).

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10522/germany-migrant-sex-crimes

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Meanwhile... In Poland.

No terror threat in Poland: Interior Minister




05.06.2017 08:30

There is no terror threat in Poland, the country's Interior Minister Mariusz Błaszczak has said.

Błaszczak added that Poland was different from Western Europe because “we are not engaged in multicultural policy or political correctness”.

“The current government changed the policy of the [previous government], which was based on an open door for refugees. As such, all those mistakes which ended in tragic events in the west of Europe did not affect Poland,” Błaszczak said.

He added that Europe's migration policy should be changed.

The head of Poland's governing Law and Justice (PiS) party, Jarosław Kaczyński, said that a war is being waged against Europe.

“Either Europe … will get up off its knees and start to seriously consider counteraction measures, but that means rejecting political correctness, or these types of incidents will continue,” Kaczyński said, adding that Poland should expand its armed forces.

http://thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/310193,No-terror-threat-in-Poland-Interior-Minister-

Where's that head of ASIO chap for his latest comment

[stui magpie]