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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:32 am
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I'm quite happy with no time, I think having the conviction on record will be the biggest thing, as Ronrat implies.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:52 am
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Wokko wrote:
Bolt gets constant death threats from lefty wankers, so when he's out in the street and is rushed by two masked men I would think any reasonable person would see that he would be in fear for his personal safety. Clear case of self defence and reasonable force.


Bolt is not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to death threats. How many women journalists, opinion piece writers, game reviewers get death & rape threats etc.

Having said that, it was wrong & the culprits should be punished. I'm not too sure what the penalty should be though?

Being compelled to read Andrew Bolt continuously for 2 years would seem quite severe but apt.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:57 am
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Arrogant and self-justified losers like these probably consider a simple record a badge of honour. While we do not need to go overboard, they need to feel that a premeditated assault including criminal damage is a serious matter, and the punishment should hurt something they value. I'm very attracted by a sentence involving a substantial donation to a cause of Andrew Bolt's choosing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:02 pm
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:42 pm
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Mugwump wrote:
Arrogant and self-justified losers like these probably consider a simple record a badge of honour. While we do not need to go overboard, they need to feel that a premeditated assault including criminal damage is a serious matter, and the punishment should hurt something they value. I'm very attracted by a substantial donation to a cause of Andrew Bolt's choosing.


I doubt they'd consider it a badge of honour if it effected their travel or employment prospects.

Of course, that depends on what kind of riff raff they actually are.

If they were just feral anarchists, they're unlikely to ever hold a job or earn enough money to travel anyway, so in that case a donation to a cause of Bolt's choosing would be apt.

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stui magpie wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Arrogant and self-justified losers like these probably consider a simple record a badge of honour. While we do not need to go overboard, they need to feel that a premeditated assault including criminal damage is a serious matter, and the punishment should hurt something they value. I'm very attracted by a substantial donation to a cause of Andrew Bolt's choosing.


I doubt they'd consider it a badge of honour if it effected their travel or employment prospects.

Of course, that depends on what kind of riff raff they actually are.

If they were just feral anarchists, they're unlikely to ever hold a job or earn enough money to travel anyway, so in that case a donation to a cause of Bolt's choosing would be apt.


Hope he chooses the "Stolen Generation Benevolent Fund Wink

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watt price tully wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Arrogant and self-justified losers like these probably consider a simple record a badge of honour. While we do not need to go overboard, they need to feel that a premeditated assault including criminal damage is a serious matter, and the punishment should hurt something they value. I'm very attracted by a substantial donation to a cause of Andrew Bolt's choosing.


I doubt they'd consider it a badge of honour if it effected their travel or employment prospects.

Of course, that depends on what kind of riff raff they actually are.

If they were just feral anarchists, they're unlikely to ever hold a job or earn enough money to travel anyway, so in that case a donation to a cause of Bolt's choosing would be apt.


Hope he chooses the "Stolen Generation Benevolent Fund Wink


I'm sure he will.

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Mugwump wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
Mugwump wrote:
Arrogant and self-justified losers like these probably consider a simple record a badge of honour. While we do not need to go overboard, they need to feel that a premeditated assault including criminal damage is a serious matter, and the punishment should hurt something they value. I'm very attracted by a substantial donation to a cause of Andrew Bolt's choosing.


I doubt they'd consider it a badge of honour if it effected their travel or employment prospects.

Of course, that depends on what kind of riff raff they actually are.

If they were just feral anarchists, they're unlikely to ever hold a job or earn enough money to travel anyway, so in that case a donation to a cause of Bolt's choosing would be apt.


Hope he chooses the "Stolen Generation Benevolent Fund Wink


I'm sure he will.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:35 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
I'm quite happy with no time, I think having the conviction on record will be the biggest thing, as Ronrat implies.


Good luck getting a Magistrate to record a conviction this day and age when the penalty doesn't include incarceration.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:39 pm
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Probably "Freedom of Speech Part 3" but I didn't quite have the heart to start a new thread.

A Green Bay Packers fan has commenced a proceeding in the US to strike down a Chicago Bears ban on opposition-team supporters expressing their free speech rights by wearing their own team colours on the sidelines at Soldier Field. To add to the intrigue, he apparently has a Bears season ticket and wants to wear his cheesehead at all Bears home games, come what may.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:19 pm
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^

maybe someone should start a thread "only in America"

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:50 pm
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Re the Bolt thing: are we certain that it wasn't a put-up? I wouldn't put it past that slime Bolt to organise the whole thing as a publicity stunt. Let's face it, he's been really battling for a headline these last few months and, as a career-enhancing move, it was perfect.

The only thing that makes me doubt it is that it seems to have been done pretty competently, which makes it all a bit beyond Bolt's intelligence. Still, stranger things have happened.

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http://www.theage.com.au/video/video-news/video-national-news/glittery-protest-at-margaret-court-function-20170622-4vdxl.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:57 am
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On this topic man in England arrested for an offensive facebook post.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3845913/man-37-arrested-over-vile-finsbury-park-van-hire-tweet-saying-its-a-shame-they-dont-hire-out-tanks/

Our legal system is based on Englands.
If you can get arrested for offensive posts I think some of the people on Nick's might need to go into hiding. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:34 am
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If the story is true (which you'd have to doubt, given the underlying stupidity of what's alleged), the guy is the son of the owner of the van-hire company from which the weapon was rented, in this case. If that's right, you'd think that for so long as his dad is after him for ruining the business, the cops would be the least of his problems.
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