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Pies4shaw 
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| Be honest - which of you think Cloke out and Mayne in was a clever move? |
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I would be surprised if you had a seconder for that motion.
Cloke out, most agree and understand why.
Mayne in - why ? why? why? |
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Presti35 
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Joined: 05 Oct 2001
Location: London, England
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In AFL evolution, I traded Mayne back to Freo and then he won the Brownlow.
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SwansWay
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There's not even a teensy-weensy bit of schadenfreude in me. I guess I feel somewhat vindicated that he's having the same issues at the new club that he had at the Pies, only because I didn't want to hear the peanut gallery blaming Bucks if Trav found form elsewhere. After round 2, our detractors already got carried away with him.
I think many of us on here thought that the Bulldogs was the worst choice of trade for Travis. I saw this day coming in the trade period. Strangely he left Collingwood where there is less competition for spots. Travis has a limited bag of tricks but I still think he's got a bit of footy left in him. I re-watched the Round 23 game from last year and that's what he needs to produce every week. |
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MJ23
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| SwansWay wrote: | There's not even a teensy-weensy bit of schadenfreude in me. I guess I feel somewhat vindicated that he's having the same issues at the new club that he had at the Pies, only because I didn't want to hear the peanut gallery blaming Bucks if Trav found form elsewhere. After round 2, our detractors already got carried away with him.
I think many of us on here thought that the Bulldogs was the worst choice of trade for Travis. I saw this day coming in the trade period. Strangely he left Collingwood where there is less competition for spots. Travis has a limited bag of tricks but I still think he's got a bit of footy left in him. I re-watched the Round 23 game from last year and that's what he needs to produce every week. |
Im with you except he hadn't really done much even in the first 2 rounds. Certainly not what you'd expect from an experienced key forward.
Like many, I think travs problems always been between his ears. I dont buy the fitness argument last year, I saw him pre season running and keeping up with the midfield group.
One thing though, the Cloke boys all seem to drop off in form and output very quickly. I remember thinking Jason would play for 10 years plus. Almost over night he was not good enough.
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"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Be honest - which of you think Cloke out and Mayne in was a clever move? |
Cloke gone from the Pies - Good Move.
The recruiting of Mayne for an extended contract on big money? Certainly not a winner so far and unlikely to be in the future. This could also have some adverse impact on our salary cap and the recruiting of a big name in the future. The whole deal makes little sense and from its inception had little upside. It is claimed that this was one of Gubbys. WTF??
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Piesnchess
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Cloke is cooked, accept it, and move on.
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Damien 
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999
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| Presti35 wrote: | In AFL evolution, I traded Mayne back to Freo and then he won the Brownlow.
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My young bloke plays it and Jessie White won the Coleman!
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dalyc 
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Will always be a CFC hero. Recently watched some games from 10-11. Awesome.
If only he could kick straight ... sigh
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Redlight
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| Presti35 wrote: | In AFL evolution, I traded Mayne back to Freo and then he won the Brownlow.
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Isn't that typical. 
(OFF TOPIC - Is the game any good? I've been tempted but the clips look a bit ordinary.) |
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Presti35
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Sorry to get off topic. But yeah its.... ok.
I've been trying to get all the trophies, but the novelty wears off pretty quickly. NHL17 on the other hand...
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eddiesmith 
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thompsoc
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well he has 6 goals this year from 5 games and the hobbit has 3 goals from 6 games.
Nothing to boast about from either player but Cloke does average more than twice as many goals than the hobbit.
So that is food for thought.
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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| thompsoc wrote: | well he has 6 goals this year from 5 games and the hobbit has 3 goals from 6 games.
Nothing to boast about from either player but Cloke does average more than twice as many goals than the hobbit.
So that is food for thought. |
Take your point, but for the sake of 3 more goals across 6 games Cloke exerts negligible forward pressure compared to Bilbo. I also suspect that the goals per minute spent in the forward line would equalize the numbers a lot as Blair plays up the ground far more than Cloke.
Doubt that either player would make us top 8 material, atm
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eddiesmith
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| Mugwump wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | well he has 6 goals this year from 5 games and the hobbit has 3 goals from 6 games.
Nothing to boast about from either player but Cloke does average more than twice as many goals than the hobbit.
So that is food for thought. |
Take your point, but for the sake of 3 more goals across 6 games Cloke exerts negligible forward pressure compared to Bilbo. I also suspect that the goals per minute spent in the forward line would equalize the numbers a lot as Blair plays up the ground far more than Cloke.
Doubt that either player would make us top 8 material, atm |
Cloke has also been rucking in and spending time on the bench so those numbers may not be that much if any more than Blair at all
A more interesting comparison is to his replacement as no1 forward, Darcy Moore. He has 13 goals from 11 games so a similar output but after 5 games had just the 3 goals and boy did people get upset if there was ever any suggestion of dropping him!
He has come good now, but even then a great game from Darcy is getting 2 or 3 goals out of him... |
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