Recruiting success - Better than we think.

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There was a LOT of criticism of Collingwood's recruiting efforts over the summer (and indeed summers past).

Interestingly, going into round 10 and looking at our best 22 from last week, it is interesting to observe the following.

- 4 of the 5 2017 trades are IN the best 22. Schade, Dunn, Wells and WHE are all valuable contributors. Mayne struggling to get a game

- the remaining 18 players in the team include 6 players brought to the club through trades - Treloar, Howe, Adams Greenwood, Crisp, and Aish.

- Of the remaining 12, no fewer than 7 were low draft picks or rookie listed players - Smith, Goldsack, Maynard, Elliot (he was effectively a pick 25), Faz, Blair and Phillips.

- Only Pendles, Sidey, DeGoey, Moore and Grundy can be truly considered high end talent that we secured through the draft!

A further examination of the list shows the following players who are of the kind that could be considered best 22 types.

- Varcoe, White, Aish and Mayne all came from trades
- Langdon, Brown, Daicos, Wills, Crocker, Cox were all late round/rookie talents.
- Scharenberg and Reid were high end talents secured in the draft.

We only really have one high end talent that it is a bust and the was Freeman and we'll never know what he could have become as his career was tragically cut short!

Where would we be without our excellent trading record. Imagine a side without Schade, Dunn, WHE, Wells, Varcoe, White, Greenwood, Crisp, Adams, Treloar, Aish and Mayne.

[melliot]

This list was 2nd bottom on the ladder only the round before last. Hardly a ringing endorsment.

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Are you suggesting that Wells, WHE, Schade and Dunn this year, and Treloar, Howe, Adams, Aish, Crisp and Greenwood have been disappointments?

Most are playing better for us than they did at their prior club.

[5 from the wing on debut]

[Pies4shaw]

Is "career tragically cut short" code for being made to go to St Kilda?

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[5 from the wing on debut]

[thompsoc]

This is what Hine said in 2015 about drafting Pendles.

WHILE some within the industry thought drafting Scott Pendlebury with pick No. 5 in the 2005 national draft was a “monumental mistake”, almost a decade later its proven an inspired choice.

Five All-Australian jumpers, three best-and-fairest awards and a premiership later, Collingwood recruiting manager Derek Hine’s choice looks an inspired one.

“We probably took him ahead of where most boards had him,” Hine told Fox Sports News.

“It was actually my first draft and I remember driving down St Kilda Road post draft and Caroline Wilson was on the radio and she was saying something along the lines that ‘industry sources suggest Collingwood had made a monumental mistake by taking Pendlebury with pick 5’.

“I almost drove into a tree.”

Hine has watched the 27-year-old translate the qualities that saw him excel at junior level into the big league with ease.

“In that particular draft year we thought he played a lot like an indigenous player, he had so much time and so much space. You really couldn’t touch him in a phone box,” he said.

“It’s just that spatial awareness. I think the one thing about Scott is that he was a basketball player at the really high end, so just watch him every time he’s got the ball the game just stops around him.”

Hine said Pendlebury’s on field ability combined with his leadership make him one of the best players he’s seen in black and white.

“He’s certainly right up there ... He’s just so durable and he plays at a really high level week in week out ... no matter what the circumstances,” he said.

“He’s proving to be an outstanding leader ... if there was one thing that surprised me about Scott is just how great a leader he is.”

[5 from the wing on debut]

[RudeBoy]

We were also smart off loading Travis Cloke when we did.

For all those who suggested he would thrive under a 'supportive coach', I read today that he is likely to be dropped after kicking only 5 goals and taking 6 contested marks in 6 games (something like that anyway). Seems the club knew he was cooked. Good call by our club.

[mooretreloar]

^^
Spot on.

The call on Nathan Brown was absolutely spot on.

Jack Frost cannot get a game at Brisbane, so another correct call.

Marley has been playing OK for North, but is still butchering the ball chronically, so another correct call.

Witts has been doing well for Gold Coast, but it is understandable that he wanted to leave, as he would not been playing in front of Grundy, so he would be languishing in the 2's. A win for him and for the club, as we used the picks we received for Witts to help get Daicos and Brown.

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[doriswilgus]

[sixpoints]

You must turn the list over, so what have we missed from our notable outs traded to other clubs;

Dale Thomas - washed up. For the money, he has been a poor return.
Heretier Lumumba - washed up
Chris Dawes - washed up
Dayne Beames - still has massive up side, but on the whole chronically injured. Only played 25 times out of 53 games since he left.
Sharrrod Wellingham - been serviceable but easily replaceable
Ben Kennedy - washed up
Jackson Paine - washed up
Paul Seedsman - easily replaceable
Jon Ceglar - may have missed one here. Injured a lot, but has been good
Nathan Freeman - yet to play a senior game
Marley Williams - easily replaceable
Jarrod Witts - has upside, but would never play over Grundy
Jack Frost - limited player, back up defender at best
Nathan Brown - capable, but would have one year in him at best
Travis Cloke - he offers very little now. One more year in him at best
Heath Shaw - has been missed and has played excellently. He's over his peak, but still good.
All in all our outs besides Shaw and perhaps Ceglar, all the rest have been serviceable at best, or flops. Very little missed.