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john b
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| Hate to say it, I'll probably get hammered for this but Goldsack is past it. |
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Piesnchess
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| thompsoc wrote: | 2 major points
First...we have a very good midfield and a crap forwardline and backline.
Second...The skill level of a number of players is below standard.
In a very competitive system the flaws of a weak back and forward line coupled with poor skills will kill you.
And you cannot realistically expect the midfield to carry you through to the finals. |
Yep, time to bring in the likes of young Daicos, Scharenberg, Wills, and why not this fella Kirby, put em all in v the piss and poo, and put young Daics on that old prick Gibson, give the old bloke the run round. Time to roll the dice, nothing to lose now, who dares, wins. 
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PyreneesPie 
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Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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| piedys wrote: | Amazing isn't it; we still cannot gauge where we are as a team, despite lingering down the bowels of the ladder.
We gave the 2016 premiers a scare, just beat the Pink Duck runners up, beat Geelong, who rouned out the top 4, and almost rolled GWS, who should have won the 2016 premiership.
And yet... we lose to shit-kicker teams like carlton, Essendon, and Bitchmond.
Such a lost opportunity today, with so many players still playing dumb football. Good to see the maggots step up in last quarter when GWS lost a few players, that was mighty sporting of the c*nts....
No wonder everybody on this forum is close to losing their f*cking minds... |
 Very hard to get a handle on it all, for sure! I don't think Bucks did a lot wrong today. The little mistakes that cost us a goal or gave the opposition a goal would just about make me resign as coach, just to get some equilibrium and sanity back!!!
Eventually, the boys will do mostly everything right and make the ball sing! |
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Jezza 
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Location: Ponsford End
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| john b wrote: | | Hate to say it, I'll probably get hammered for this but Goldsack is past it. |
I thought Goldsack was one of our better players tonight.
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Monco Matt 
Do it to THEM before THEY do it to YOU
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
Location: Sittin, Drinkin, Reloadin & Waitin
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Honestly guys, what would a 3 point win have accomplished for us? How would it have been any different from beating the Swans and the Cats? It would only have created another false dawn and taken the pressure off Buckley and team for 1 week only. We would then go into next weeks game and delivered another shocking performance and we would be back to square one again. We would have just continued the circle if we had of beaten GWS today. This loss will be the best thing for the club because the pressure stays and the pressure to start making important decisions to turn the tables of the direction this club is going will get closer to occurring.
Every other team in the competition outside of the Lions would have finished all over the top of a 19 man Giants team today. If we cannot even do that then what are we really? I'm pretty much dialed in to losing games these days, I don't feel any real anger when we lose, only despair. We need to come to a fork in the road and this road we have been on will only lead to the edge of a cliff. Every loss takes us closer to the fork, every little sneaky, flukey, grindy, ugly, lucky win delays this. We have no consistency in performance which makes a solitary win here and there irrelevant to the big picture. One week closer to change. Not that change guarantees anything, but to continue the status quo when the status quo is broken is madness.
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Jpies
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| Jezza wrote: | | john b wrote: | | Hate to say it, I'll probably get hammered for this but Goldsack is past it. |
I thought Goldsack was one of our better players tonight. |
IMO Goldsack has been one of our better players all year. |
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What'sinaname 
Joined: 29 May 2010
Location: Living rent free
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | 2 major points
First...we have a very good midfield and a crap forwardline and backline.
Second...The skill level of a number of players is below standard.
In a very competitive system the flaws of a weak back and forward line coupled with poor skills will kill you.
And you cannot realistically expect the midfield to carry you through to the finals. |
Yep, time to bring in the likes of young Daicos, Scharenberg, Wills, and why not this fella Kirby, put em all in v the piss and poo, and put young Daics on that old prick Gibson, give the old bloke the run round. Time to roll the dice, nothing to lose now, who dares, wins. |
Unfortunately Figjam won't do that, because, well, **** he's good, just ask him! |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| thompsoc wrote: | 2 major points
First...we have a very good midfield and a crap forwardline and backline.
Second...The skill level of a number of players is below standard.
In a very competitive system the flaws of a weak back and forward line coupled with poor skills will kill you.
And you cannot realistically expect the midfield to carry you through to the finals. |
i'm really not sure about this. That GWS game ultimately turned on a long period in the second quarter when their midfield and clearances and CPs smashed ours. If our midfield was as stellar as it looks on paper that should not happen. Our biggest problem, though, is up forward. Letting Cloke go with no replacment was clearly a howling error.
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Damien 
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999
Location: Croydon Vic
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This thread tells me of the lack of football knowledge of so many posters on this board. We are all disappointed but where people want to lay the blame is bewildering.
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PyreneesPie
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Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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| Piesnchess wrote: |
Yep, time to bring in the likes of young Daicos, Scharenberg, Wills, and why not this fella Kirby, put em all in v the piss and poo, and put young Daics on that old prick Gibson, give the old bloke the run round. Time to roll the dice, nothing to lose now, who dares, wins. |
My thoughts exactly. We need to start giving some game experience to the possible future stars of the years to come. |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| Jezza wrote: | | john b wrote: | | Hate to say it, I'll probably get hammered for this but Goldsack is past it. |
I thought Goldsack was one of our better players tonight. |
Funny how people see things so differently. I thought he was probably in our top 3. Made one howler but most of them did that.
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Goldsack has the same problem year after year.
Doe's some great things but every match there will be a few fumbles, a couple of slips and a couple of gettable marks missed.
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PyreneesPie
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| Does anyone else reckon that Pendles is playing like someone with something other than football on his mind? (Not that I blame him). |
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PyreneesPie
PyreneesPie
Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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Unfortunately Figjam won't do that, because, well, **** he's good, just ask him! |
Have you???? |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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Pendlebury has been good but I think he is past the stage where he shapes games. He's becoming a very good player, not the great that he was three seasons ago,
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