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Warbler
Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Location: Tyaak Vic
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The day I take any notice of what that oxygen thief Mike Sheehan has to say is the day i will know that I have alzeimers |
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qldmagpie67
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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MarkOSuv wrote: | Member 7167 wrote: | MarkOSuv wrote: | I thought it was really classless and poor form for Collingwood supporters to boo Cloke.
Travis Cloke is a premiership player. He was a loyal servant and despite the poor advice by his manager, he took unders in his contract when Fremantle and Carlton offered more.
He was run out of the club by a coach who scapegoated him last year. He didn't want to leave but a coach who would promote him one week and then drop him the next made him seek opportunities elsewhere.
Our supporters looked like classless people who didn't appreciate why Travis was forced out of the club. The idiots in the Cheer Squad who are full of window lickers should be ashamed for taunting Cloke. |
You refer to others as being classless but then you make a statement like this.
Travis was not forced out of the club. He chose to not work with the fitness staff and lose some weight and get more mobile. As a result the game left him behind and he was no longer competitive at AFL level. He has now gone to a new club and has done what the Pies fitness staff asked him to do. Enen then his impact was limited.
He bent us over for the last contract and since that was signed he has lacked commitment and has been more and more ineffective year after year. He wanted the big bucks and when they were guaranteed he lacked the strength of character to deliver.
I did not and will not boo him but he is not the shining light and victim you portray. |
Travis was forced out of the club. Anyone with 1/2 a brain could deduce that the constant yo / yo selection of him last year meant the coach was looking to plan for 2017 without him.
Over a number of weeks he would show great form in the VFL and he would be selected. He would gain selection and despite not being the worst player, he would be one of the first players to be dropped.
The theory about him not doing what the fitness staff is baseless and has no credible links. Even Buckley has debunked that.
And the Cheer Squad should be ashamed. They looked like morons yelling abuse at him. |
MarkOSuv I've read nearly all your posts and there seems to be a common theme mate. If anyone disagrees with your opinion there idiots and your always right.
Mate everyone knows the only person around here who is right all the time is ME !!
Why's that you ask ? Well simple Sherlock simple it's because I'm never wrong.
Ok now back on topic and the booing of Cloke.
Now my mind is t as fresh as it was a couple millions beers ago but I clearly remember Cloke was actually contracted until the end of the 2017 season (I double checked he was)
He actually asked the club for a release the club didn't seek to trade him.
It was never about him and the coach mate it was about he hadn't met the KPI's set down in his contract to trigger the extra payments to get him to his $750k salary. Those KPI's weren't about games played or goals kicked but he had certain obligations to meet and he failed.
He was asked to change the role he played by the coach and he didn't wish to Simple. Be it right or wrong when your boss asks you to perform a duty at work you do it or leave.
He choose to act like a spoil the brat.
He was in and out of the team based purely on performance issues nothing more nothing less.
Just for the record mate he's shed 4.5kg's since he arrived at the Bulldogs to meet the criteria they set down in he's contract.
So was Beveridge wrong as well to ask him to shed some weight to meet the demands of modern football or just Buckley ?
I'm guessing now I'll feel the wrath of your poison keyboard but it not bother me mate I'm a big boy I can take it. |
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winpies
Joined: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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This!
"Just for the record mate he's shed 4.5kg's since he arrived at the Bulldogs to meet the criteria they set down in he's contract. So was Beveridge wrong as well to ask him to shed some weight to meet the demands of modern football or just Buckley ?"
I too remember something about Buckley (or someone) asking him to change his body shape. Which he now proudly says he did for the Bulldogs. That smacks of stubbornness/arrogance right there.
Now don't get me wrong, Cloke will forever be a magpie premiership player, but I will still boo him while he plays for another club. I am sure he will be widely embraced upon the completion of his career and his return as a magpie. _________________ carn the mighty pies! |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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Time to put the Shite Mike shirt back on. The twit has more important thi ngs to write about. One example would be the farcical implementation of the thirdman up in the ruck rule that would have Bombersand hawks fans still shaking thier heads.
Anyway Sheeahan is retired. Why hasn't he buggerred off to the Gold coast? _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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winpies wrote: | This!
"Just for the record mate he's shed 4.5kg's since he arrived at the Bulldogs to meet the criteria they set down in he's contract. So was Beveridge wrong as well to ask him to shed some weight to meet the demands of modern football or just Buckley ?"
I too remember something about Buckley (or someone) asking him to change his body shape. Which he now proudly says he did for the Bulldogs. That smacks of stubbornness/arrogance right there.
Now don't get me wrong, Cloke will forever be a magpie premiership player, but I will still boo him while he plays for another club. I am sure he will be widely embraced upon the completion of his career and his return as a magpie. |
Body shape or no body shape, I reckon Cloke is finished as an AFL player and will play a large part of the 2017 season in the VFL. If last week's game was the best he can do, it's simply not good enough. He can't jump any more and is hopeless as a ruck option. In truth, he was really finished as a good player at least 2 years ago. Since then he's been on borrowed time. I'm so glad he's off our books now. Good luck to him and I wish him well, but I think he's a player in fast and serious decline. |
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matrix10
Joined: 17 May 2009
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think positive wrote: | Cloke himself laughed it off,
And the boos started at the dodger free kick before he got the ball, I know, I was booing!
Who gives a shit what Sheehan thinks |
Bingo!
Maclean got a bullshit free -which was (rightly) booed loudly- and kicked directly to cloke- booing continued and aggravated by the fact he now had a shot for goal.
Sheahan banging on about how we got rid of him, he was a greta servant to the club, gave his all- bullshit- the guy did some greta things for collingwood- yet since 2013 (and that's being generous) he was a selfish daddy's boy who refused to change to help the team. |
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The Boy Who Cried Wolf
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Location: We prefer free speech - you know it's right
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Don't even understand why we're talking about this... hasn't the whole vfl/afl thought this... like forever? |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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Mugwump wrote: | Tbh I though the booing was because Cloke's first mark followed hard upon a disallowed mark to Moore within scoring range. The booing started before Cloke even got it on the rebound from that. Then it intensified because of the symbolism. Cloke was not regularly booed after that, as far as I recall.
Anyway, who cares, he's a Collingwood great who plays for another club. As long as he plays for another club, he'll be the enemy, then when it's over, he'll be a great again and we'll welcome him back, if he wants to come. |
THIS !!!! Yes, spot on, I was at home and my son and I both agreed the disallowed mark to Moore was the main reason for the big boos, it started straigtaway, prior to Clokes mark, and inning up. So, what was a certain goal to us, turned into a damn two goal turnaround, at a critical time. The boos were for that shocking decision mainly, not for Cloke. That old fool Shehan should look at the replay closer, and keep his snide comments to himself. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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RudeBoy wrote: | winpies wrote: | This!
"Just for the record mate he's shed 4.5kg's since he arrived at the Bulldogs to meet the criteria they set down in he's contract. So was Beveridge wrong as well to ask him to shed some weight to meet the demands of modern football or just Buckley ?"
I too remember something about Buckley (or someone) asking him to change his body shape. Which he now proudly says he did for the Bulldogs. That smacks of stubbornness/arrogance right there.
Now don't get me wrong, Cloke will forever be a magpie premiership player, but I will still boo him while he plays for another club. I am sure he will be widely embraced upon the completion of his career and his return as a magpie. |
Body shape or no body shape, I reckon Cloke is finished as an AFL player and will play a large part of the 2017 season in the VFL. If last week's game was the best he can do, it's simply not good enough. He can't jump any more and is hopeless as a ruck option. In truth, he was really finished as a good player at least 2 years ago. Since then he's been on borrowed time. I'm so glad he's off our books now. Good luck to him and I wish him well, but I think he's a player in fast and serious decline. |
I thought he looked a lot more mobile last Friday, and less inclined to do that stupid wrestling, planted-gorilla thing that he got into in the last few years with us. So it is possible he'll be more effective for a time with Footscray than he was with us. If he is, then Buckley did him a favour by calling out his unsuitable shape for a modern AFL career.
He is near the end of his time, but there may be some life in a slimmer version of the old dog yet. We'll never know whether he would have slimmed down and done better if he'd stayed, but he chose to go while under contract, to a new contract that demanded he do so.
I still wish him well when he is not playing us, but the story is not a black and white tale of goodies and baddies. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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selkevh
Joined: 04 Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane
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Warbler wrote: | The day I take any notice of what that oxygen thief Mike Sheehan has to say is the day i will know that I have alzeimers |
It may have already started.
You forgot the "h" 😜 _________________ A strong man stands up for himself ... a stronger man stands up for others. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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dalyc
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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MarkOSuv wrote: | Lazza wrote: | MarkOSuv wrote: | I thought it was really classless and poor form for Collingwood supporters to boo Cloke.
Travis Cloke is a premiership player. He was a loyal servant and despite the poor advice by his manager, he took unders in his contract when Fremantle and Carlton offered more.
He was run out of the club by a coach who scapegoated him last year. He didn't want to leave but a coach who would promote him one week and then drop him the next made him seek opportunities elsewhere.
Our supporters looked like classless people who didn't appreciate why Travis was forced out of the club. The idiots in the Cheer Squad who are full of window lickers should be ashamed for taunting Cloke. |
Well the door is open for you to leave Collingwood and follow another club. Simple solution.
If you don’t like your family or fellow siblings/relatives, you always have a choice to have no contact with them. Why put up with folks you don’t like?? Makes no logical sense.
Coming to a Collingwood board as a "new" member and immediately slagging other posters/supporters/coach and the club beggars belief! Who is holding the gun to your head so that you have to sook all the bloody time? Why go through that torture or actually put us through it?
Take the chance to leave, end your annoyance and save us from having to suffer your perpetually bloody negative anti Collingwood posts......... |
Please don't tell me to leave the club, not your place to, you have no official role with the club, I have been a member since 1989.
Just because I don't tolerate mediocrity and poor performance doesn't make me any less of a supporter.
If you don't like my posts, put me on ignore. Cheers. |
There's something oddly familiar about MarkOSuv's posts. Can't put my finger on it. _________________ Four legged animals good, two legged animals better |
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Benno
Joined: 23 May 2008
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Who actually cares what Mike has to say?
For the record, I actually thought most of the boos stemmed from the rubbish call from the umpire, rather than supporters giving Trav the biscuits. But there were always going to be a few that did. That's AFL.
Travis is a premiership player and was a loyal servant of the club. He has and will always have my appreciation and respect for that.
Can't blame the bloke for leaving if you were spending the majority of the seasons in the 2's (which I didn't agree with). Good luck to him, except against us. |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
Joined: 09 Jun 2008
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dalyc wrote: | MarkOSuv wrote: | Lazza wrote: | MarkOSuv wrote: | I thought it was really classless and poor form for Collingwood supporters to boo Cloke.
Travis Cloke is a premiership player. He was a loyal servant and despite the poor advice by his manager, he took unders in his contract when Fremantle and Carlton offered more.
He was run out of the club by a coach who scapegoated him last year. He didn't want to leave but a coach who would promote him one week and then drop him the next made him seek opportunities elsewhere.
Our supporters looked like classless people who didn't appreciate why Travis was forced out of the club. The idiots in the Cheer Squad who are full of window lickers should be ashamed for taunting Cloke. |
Well the door is open for you to leave Collingwood and follow another club. Simple solution.
If you don’t like your family or fellow siblings/relatives, you always have a choice to have no contact with them. Why put up with folks you don’t like?? Makes no logical sense.
Coming to a Collingwood board as a "new" member and immediately slagging other posters/supporters/coach and the club beggars belief! Who is holding the gun to your head so that you have to sook all the bloody time? Why go through that torture or actually put us through it?
Take the chance to leave, end your annoyance and save us from having to suffer your perpetually bloody negative anti Collingwood posts......... |
Please don't tell me to leave the club, not your place to, you have no official role with the club, I have been a member since 1989.
Just because I don't tolerate mediocrity and poor performance doesn't make me any less of a supporter.
If you don't like my posts, put me on ignore. Cheers. |
There's something oddly familiar about MarkOSuv's posts. Can't put my finger on it. |
Code Red, code Red, Troll alert for this newbie. Undoubtedly. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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piedys
Heeeeeeere's Dyso!!!
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Resident Forum Psychopath since 2003
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Lazza wrote: | I would absolutely bloody HATE it if I was loved by opposition fans because I'm a Collingwood supporter. It would take away all my pride of being able to fight fire with greater fire against those bastards.
If I have a dollar for each time Buck's was booed as a player, I wouldn't have to work today.
Mike Sheahan is just yet another hypocritical hack media wanker. I hate the hack media more than I hate umpires and all other opposition fans except for Carlscum and Essenscum fans who are your exemplary, text book type of ferals. |
Ah, so eloquently stated there; great post, Sir Lazza of Bendigo. _________________ M I L L A N E 4 2 forever |
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