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CarringbushCigar Taurus



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:36 pm
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That Ryan Burton is a freaking superstar - I would have given him the 5.
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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:32 pm
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Of the leaders -

73 Dustin Martin (Rich)
72 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel)
57 Elliot Yeo (WC)
56 Joel Selwood (Geel)
53 Gary Ablett (GC)
53 Rory Sloane (Adel)
48 Zach Merrett (Ess)
48 Scott Pendlebury (Coll)
48 Sebastian Ross (StK)
48 Dayne Zorko (BL)

- Dangerfield will probably get the 10 and Zorko (181 AF points), the 8 in the Cats big win. J Selwood could get minor votes.

Martin won't get a vote. Under 20 disposals.

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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:12 pm
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Yeo was one of WC's best but 7 PA players rated above him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:01 am
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Round 16

COLLINGWOOD v ESSENDON
8 Orazio Fantasia (Ess)
7 David Zaharakis (Ess)
5 Michael Hurley (Ess)
4 James Kelly (Ess)
2 Jamie Elliott (Coll)
2 Steele Sidebottom (Coll)
1 Dyson Heppell (Ess)
1 Darcy Parish (Ess)

And the leaderboard:

81 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel)
73 Dustin Martin (Rich)
58 Sebastian Ross (StK)
57 Elliot Yeo (WC)
57 Dayne Zorko (BL)
56 Joel Selwood (Geel)
54 Tom Mitchell (Haw)
53 Gary Ablett (GC)
53 Rory Sloane (Adel)
50 Clayton Oliver (Melb)

Magpies.

48. Pendles
36. Adams
33. Treloar
25. Sidey
13. Grundy, Howe
6. Wells, De Goey, Elliott
5. Fas, Levi
4. H-E
2. Schade, Goldy, Crisp
1. Maynard, Reid, Moore
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:54 am
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Only way I can calculate the voting is as follows

Fantasia 5-3
Zarharkis 4-3
Hurley 5-0
Kelly 4-0
Elliott 2-0
Sidey 2-0
Heppell 1-0
Parish 1-0
Big variations in opinions between the 2 coaches. Looks like each coach could only find 1 Collingwood player each in th best 5
Surprising Langdon didn't get the 10 votes. Means the coaches and every poster bar 1 in the GB medal didn't rate his game either. How can everyone be so wrong and 1 person so right 😭😭
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:13 am
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Yes, it is surprising. Only Copeland 2017 and Copeland 2016 got more of the ball than him (and not by much) - but he had, eg, 10 contested possessions (only Copeland 2017 had more), took 10 marks (equal with Elliott) and had more contested marks than any other Collingwood player. He was certainly top three for the 'Pies on the day and I suppose it's almost always a matter of taste what order you put them in, especially when the team as a whole gets flogged by poor opposition.

Anyway, this will keep your spirits up:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=5&playerStatus2=I&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=3975&pid2=2074&fid1=C&fid2=C
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:59 am
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^^^
I didn't realise Pendles ( Copeland winner 2016 & 2017) had such a good game
I had better go back and edit my votes.
Looks like I gave Sidey votes for no reason then must have been my vision playing up
Thanks for pointing that out to me mate cheers

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=5&playerStatus2=A&tid2=11&type=A&pid1=3975&pid2=3659&fid1=S&fid2=S

Just a more accurate comparison for players around the same age playing in the same era
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:09 am
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Thanks for pointing that out. I knew Langdon was a star but I hadn't realised that his disposal efficiency was better than Tom Michell and Sam Mitchell this season and that he has fewer clangers per game than either of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:47 am
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And you missed the most obvious one
There both called Tom !!!
The big difference is one of the Tom's will add to there 24 career Brownlow votes the other Tom won't add to the single (1) career Brownlow vote
You guess which Tom is which ??
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:29 am
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P4S I understand it must be hard to have hang your hat on a player in 2009 who you thought would be a star only to have those dreams shattered and then have to come to the realisation that he isn't so you pick another new recruit and hope for a different outcome.
Mate you can't blame Sidey completely for his marvellously underwhelming career. He wasn't responsible for using pick 11 on himself and the expectations of going to the biggest club in the land and failing to live up to your lofty expectations especially the same year our pick 29 had an immediate and lasting impact on the team. Heck for every Beams who's drafted who wins rising star nomination, best first year player, premiership player, all Australian honours, Copeland trophy, AFLCA MVP award and 2 top 10 Brownlow medal finishes & 3 media awards for best player in a specific season you get a dozen or more Sidey's.
I get you decided hey I'll take a low draft pick and hang my hat on them and hope to find a jewel with a late pick like a Swan or Beams but in all,honestly your more likely to find a Yagmoor
I get your a man of conviction and sticks solid with your picks no matter how much evidence is layer bare to the contrary that your selections are just average players who at any other club may not be getting a game.
If your looking for the next Copeland winner (outside Pendles) and our next real chance to win a Brownlow or at least reach double digits in Brownlow voting and give you a chance to be in the conversation I'll tip you into a couple. Try Misters DeGoey or Trelaor. They will both win a Copeland before they retire (actually might win a few between them) and Treloar proved last year he will always feature in Brownlow voting even in a team that isn't going well.
Time to change horses mate and back a winner
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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:40 am
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qldmagpie67 wrote:
Surprising Langdon didn't get the 10 votes. Means the coaches and every poster bar 1 in the GB medal didn't rate his game either. How can everyone be so wrong and 1 person so right 😭😭


Incorrect. 12 members voted. 5 included Langdon. 2 gave him the 5.

18 votes.

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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:51 pm
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Martin, Mitchell and Ablett all racked up 40 or more disposals.

Dangerfield sustained an injury and was rested at FF. Although only 20 disposals, he kicked 5.6 and will be well in the votes.

Will be interesting to see who draws votes for us, considering 6 different players scored the 5 votes in GB voting.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:58 pm
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Pies4shaw wrote:
Thanks for pointing that out. I knew Langdon was a star but I hadn't realised that his disposal efficiency was better than Tom Michell and Sam Mitchell this season and that he has fewer clangers per game than either of them.


Yes, Langdon is better than both.

When he gets 40 odd possessions & influences a game like they do, get back to me Wink

I thought he looked a bit better this week although to ignore players in better positions when he has the ball literally moving forward like he did yesterday is a blight on his game

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:54 pm
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GOLD COAST v COLLINGWOOD
10 Steele Sidebottom (Coll)
8 Gary Ablett (GC)
4 Taylor Adams (Coll)
3 Tyson Goldsack (Coll)
2 David Swallow (GC)
2 Adam Treloar (Coll)
1 Ben Reid (Coll)


Thus establishing, once and for all, that Cope-Sidey is better than Ablett.Wink

AFLCA LEADERBOARD
91 Patrick Dangerfield (Geel)
82 Dustin Martin (Rich)
62 Tom Mitchell (Haw)
61 Gary Ablett (GC)
59 Joel Selwood (Geel)
58 Zach Merrett (Ess)
58 Sebastian Ross (StK)
57 Elliot Yeo (WC)
57 Dayne Zorko (BL)
53 Rory Sloane (Adel)

Magpies.

48. Pendles
40. Adams
35. Treloar
35. Sidey
13. Grundy, Howe
6. Wells, De Goey, Elliott
5. Fas, Levi, Goldy
4. H-E
2. Schade, Crisp, Reid
1. Maynard, Moore


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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:12 am
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With Pendles sidelined, this award and the Copeland is now a 3 player race.

Adams, Treloar and Sidey.

*Pies4, Goldy should be on 5 votes. Smile

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