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inxs88
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| mackasmatt wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | Blair was among our better players on Friday night until the last quarter, when he drifted out of it. He played his role far more effectively than (for example) Darcy Moore or Varcoe played theirs. In the Game Day thread, people were screaming for his head by quarter time. Yet in the first quarter he laid the tackle that saw the ball spill to Sidebottom for our first goal. He hit the post with a front and centre gather off Cox. And he laid a poor handball to Varcoe when he should have had a shot, because in half a split second he saw Varcoe running to goal and he tried to do the team thing.
It has got to the point where people sweat on every little error he makes, while they overlook all others. Howe played well on Friday, yet he made several terrible disposal mistakes that nearly cost us several goals. Both
Maynard and .Ramsay made stupid misjudgements that cost us goals. Yet it's all Blair's fault. Elliot would be better value (he's better value than just about any other small forward in the league when he is on form), and when he is ready then he might push Jarryd out. But the hate on a player who backs up week after week, gets a lot of it for a small forward, and creates opportunities, is truly weird. |
Totally agree regarding Blair, cops way more than he deserves. People love to think they gave the single golden coaching suggestion that no one else has thought of or noticed.
If people checked his stats they would realise in 144 games and now his 8th season he has near identical stats year-to-year for his whole career!
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-collingwood-magpies--jarryd-blair
Blair as a small pressure forward is the least of our problems, and a change in his position is unlikely to influence anything. |
Correct! Yep year in year out he has been awful!
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| inxs88 wrote: | | mackasmatt wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | Blair was among our better players on Friday night until the last quarter, when he drifted out of it. He played his role far more effectively than (for example) Darcy Moore or Varcoe played theirs. In the Game Day thread, people were screaming for his head by quarter time. Yet in the first quarter he laid the tackle that saw the ball spill to Sidebottom for our first goal. He hit the post with a front and centre gather off Cox. And he laid a poor handball to Varcoe when he should have had a shot, because in half a split second he saw Varcoe running to goal and he tried to do the team thing.
It has got to the point where people sweat on every little error he makes, while they overlook all others. Howe played well on Friday, yet he made several terrible disposal mistakes that nearly cost us several goals. Both
Maynard and .Ramsay made stupid misjudgements that cost us goals. Yet it's all Blair's fault. Elliot would be better value (he's better value than just about any other small forward in the league when he is on form), and when he is ready then he might push Jarryd out. But the hate on a player who backs up week after week, gets a lot of it for a small forward, and creates opportunities, is truly weird. |
Totally agree regarding Blair, cops way more than he deserves. People love to think they gave the single golden coaching suggestion that no one else has thought of or noticed.
If people checked his stats they would realise in 144 games and now his 8th season he has near identical stats year-to-year for his whole career!
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-collingwood-magpies--jarryd-blair
Blair as a small pressure forward is the least of our problems, and a change in his position is unlikely to influence anything. |
Correct! Yep year in year out he has been awful! |
Rightly or wrongly, post of the year thus far.
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inxs88
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| jackcass wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | Blair was among our better players on Friday night until the last quarter, when he drifted out of it. He played his role far more effectively than (for example) Darcy Moore or Varcoe played theirs. In the Game Day thread, people were screaming for his head by quarter time. Yet in the first quarter he laid the tackle that saw the ball spill to Sidebottom for our first goal. He hit the post with a front and centre gather off Cox. And he laid a poor handball to Varcoe when he should have had a shot, because in half a split second he saw Varcoe running to goal and he tried to do the team thing.
It has got to the point where people sweat on every little error he makes, while they overlook all others. Howe played well on Friday, yet he made several terrible disposal mistakes that nearly cost us several goals. Both
Maynard and .Ramsay made stupid misjudgements that cost us goals. Yet it's all Blair's fault. Elliot would be better value (he's better value than just about any other small forward in the league when he is on form), and when he is ready then he might push Jarryd out. But the hate on a player who backs up week after week, gets a lot of it for a small forward, and creates opportunities, is truly weird. |
Yeah, I don't get all the angst. Was one of the few players consistently getting front and centre, just didn't take his chances. Could potentially have had 2-3 goals and was involved in half a dozen other scoring chances. Look at Sidey's first goal for example. I think people just see that he's not Cyril so not good enough. Could understand a call for Broomy to replace him as he brings more pace and skill but all the calls for Kirby are a little premature. |
Another one of these:
* coulda
* woulda
* shoulda
Jackcass posts! Plenty of players get critiqued on Nick's but the sample size of 7 completed seasons for a .75/goals a game average is woeful. The jig is up Jarryd.
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53% disposal efficiency suggests he had almost 8 useful possessions. That's a shocker which ever way you look at it. I don't care that he nearly kicked 2 goals or was involved in a couple, his ineptitude probably cost us 4. The only player more useless was Cox but at least he's got some upside. I very much doubt Kirby is ready (the step up would severely test his fitness) but Broomhead imho, would be the perfect replacement.
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MarkOSuv
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Jarryd Blair is to be commended as a player. He has no talent but he has got the best out of himself. He was a role player when the team was very strong.
But Jarryd Blair is a microcosm of Nathan Buckley's coaching tenure.
He is a limited player, with poor skills who is a good honest toiler with no X Factor or flair.
He has been past by the game for years but Buckley has persisted with him.
It reminds me of when Tony Shaw would play Jason Wild every week.
But ultimately, the team cannot improve if Blair is in the 22 week in and week out.
Blair is what you call a momentum halter.
First quarter, the team had laboured to get a turnover. It forced One and the team had players in space.
Blair picked out a WB player with a poor kick and they went up the field and kicked a goal.
It breaks the heart of those upfield who do the hard work and see Blair with the ball.
It's a poor reflection on the coach and the recruiting that he hasn't been superseeeded.
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RudeBoy
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| Let Kirby play at least one VFL game ffs. |
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Rush Stand Wing
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| We are simply not ready to drop Blair. He's front and centre and in and under. He's created a niche' which I agree needs revamping but we don't have anyone else like-like at the moment. He'd want to address his turnovers because opposition have long since figured him out. If they sweat on dispossessing Blair, there's a high likelihood of a transition goal because on-ballers are on their way forward and caught on the hop. |
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| Rush Stand Wing wrote: | | We are simply not ready to drop Blair. He's front and centre and in and under. He's created a niche' which I agree needs revamping but we don't have anyone else like-like at the moment. He'd want to address his turnovers because opposition have long since figured him out. If they sweat on dispossessing Blair, there's a high likelihood of a transition goal because on-ballers are on their way forward and caught on the hop. |
What in hell does this all mean?
It looks like a bob each way. |
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Back in the good old days, a guy of blairs small stature, would have made an excellent back pocket specialist, looking after the small resting rover. Ah yes, rovers, what ever happened to them, and extinct breed. !
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Collingwood Crackerjack
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Location: Canberra
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| mackasmatt wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | Blair was among our better players on Friday night until the last quarter, when he drifted out of it. He played his role far more effectively than (for example) Darcy Moore or Varcoe played theirs. In the Game Day thread, people were screaming for his head by quarter time. Yet in the first quarter he laid the tackle that saw the ball spill to Sidebottom for our first goal. He hit the post with a front and centre gather off Cox. And he laid a poor handball to Varcoe when he should have had a shot, because in half a split second he saw Varcoe running to goal and he tried to do the team thing.
It has got to the point where people sweat on every little error he makes, while they overlook all others. Howe played well on Friday, yet he made several terrible disposal mistakes that nearly cost us several goals. Both
Maynard and .Ramsay made stupid misjudgements that cost us goals. Yet it's all Blair's fault. Elliot would be better value (he's better value than just about any other small forward in the league when he is on form), and when he is ready then he might push Jarryd out. But the hate on a player who backs up week after week, gets a lot of it for a small forward, and creates opportunities, is truly weird. |
Totally agree regarding Blair, cops way more than he deserves. People love to think they gave the single golden coaching suggestion that no one else has thought of or noticed.
If people checked his stats they would realise in 144 games and now his 8th season he has near identical stats year-to-year for his whole career!
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-collingwood-magpies--jarryd-blair
Blair as a small pressure forward is the least of our problems, and a change in his position is unlikely to influence anything. |
I think there is a lot to this point; Blair in a well drilled, confident team may be just the ticket, as he does get involved, and as such, creates opportunities.
But in the current set up his lack of polish stands out all the more for not having silk on either side of him to cover for it
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Collingwood Crackerjack
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Back in the good old days, a guy of blairs small stature, would have made an excellent back pocket specialist, looking after the small resting rover. Ah yes, rovers, what ever happened to them, and extinct breed. ! |
Bit slow to stand the resting rover surely?
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Rush Stand Wing
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| thompsoc wrote: | | Rush Stand Wing wrote: | | We are simply not ready to drop Blair. He's front and centre and in and under. He's created a niche' which I agree needs revamping but we don't have anyone else like-like at the moment. He'd want to address his turnovers because opposition have long since figured him out. If they sweat on dispossessing Blair, there's a high likelihood of a transition goal because on-ballers are on their way forward and caught on the hop. |
What in hell does this all mean?
It looks like a bob each way. |
The void his absence would create is still a higher priority than his turnovers but he's on the edge. Still think he'll play and probably be in the best for a few weeks...before dropping off again |
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MatthewBoydFanClub
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Back in the good old days, a guy of blairs small stature, would have made an excellent back pocket specialist, looking after the small resting rover. Ah yes, rovers, what ever happened to them, and extinct breed. ! |
Oh how true that is. I remember Tully in the 60's who played most of his career as a rover. Then he lost his pace so they played him in the back pocket until he retired. The game has changed so much. There's now nowhere to hide on the football field. Wherever you play you have to run from one end of the field to the other and back again. |
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