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Hehehehehe _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Member 7167
"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Location: The Collibran Hideout
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BEAMER09 wrote: | Member 7167 wrote: | If Cloke comes good it says a hell of a lot of what type of person he is and his qualities |
including his previous coach... |
Individuals of strength and character become the best they can be despite the prevailing conditions and the opinions of others. When you have the talent that Cloke has it is made so much easier.
When the going gets tough the tough get going. When you are an AFL footballer demanding $900k pa you are expected to be tough and not a shrinking violet. _________________ Now Retired - Every Day Is A Saturday |
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Piesnchess
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Member 7167 wrote: | BEAMER09 wrote: | Member 7167 wrote: | If Cloke comes good it says a hell of a lot of what type of person he is and his qualities |
including his previous coach... |
Individuals of strength and character become the best they can be despite the prevailing conditions and the opinions of others. When you have the talent that Cloke has it is made so much easier.
When the going gets tough the tough get going. When you are an AFL footballer demanding $900k pa you are expected to be tough and not a shrinking violet. |
I doubt very much if the skateboard champ of Broady, Beveridge, can somehow make Cloke a more accurate kick, it aint gonna happen. Cloke is a poor kick for goal, set in his ways, too late now, he will frustrate Dogs fans as he did us, with more soda goal misses, assuming he can actually get the pill of course. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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Stevo75
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Very difficult to dislike a premiership player but I'm glad he's gone. Some of his efforts last year were just disgraceful. For anyone with that much ability to just crack it and leave says it all. Clearly didn't value the team or his team mates and took the easy way out.
I've had this discussion with quite a few people and can't see him getting a game round 1. Who would they leave out? I also think Crameri suits their game style better so unless injuries come into it he'll be back in the VFL again. |
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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His time with us was done in Rd 1 last year when he didn't first touch the ball until Q3.
We failed Trav as much as Trav failed us. For whatever reason, Trav's career plateaued and then plummeted with Buckley.
We'll soon know who was at fault. _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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uncanny
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Location: Castlemaine
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Stevo75 wrote: | Very difficult to dislike a premiership player but I'm glad he's gone. Some of his efforts last year were just disgraceful. For anyone with that much ability to just crack it and leave says it all. Clearly didn't value the team or his team mates and took the easy way out.
I've had this discussion with quite a few people and can't see him getting a game round 1. Who would they leave out? I also think Crameri suits their game style better so unless injuries come into it he'll be back in the VFL again. |
Agreed Stevo75. Crameri is the same sort of player and is surely ahead of him in the queue for round 1. I can't imagine they'd play both of them in the same forward line but then again, I'm not Bevo. It will burn deep if he nails the sodas he has missed routinely along with taking the chances in the first place. Since our last win against Melbourne Trav has been ordinary, aside from the win against GWS last year. You'd have to wonder what might be amiss at the pies if he played round 1 and turned back the clock. We'll be watching with interest no doubt. I'm tipping he's not out there in the first place based on most recent form and state of the art game style as defined by Bevo's mob last year... _________________ woodsmen rule |
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Piesnchess
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FWIW I reckon both Moore and this new bloke Hoskin Elliott, will more than make up for Clokes absence. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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uncanny wrote: | Stevo75 wrote: | Very difficult to dislike a premiership player but I'm glad he's gone. Some of his efforts last year were just disgraceful. For anyone with that much ability to just crack it and leave says it all. Clearly didn't value the team or his team mates and took the easy way out.
I've had this discussion with quite a few people and can't see him getting a game round 1. Who would they leave out? I also think Crameri suits their game style better so unless injuries come into it he'll be back in the VFL again. |
Agreed Stevo75. Crameri is the same sort of player and is surely ahead of him in the queue for round 1. I can't imagine they'd play both of them in the same forward line but then again, I'm not Bevo. It will burn deep if he nails the sodas he has missed routinely along with taking the chances in the first place. Since our last win against Melbourne Trav has been ordinary, aside from the win against GWS last year. You'd have to wonder what might be amiss at the pies if he played round 1 and turned back the clock. We'll be watching with interest no doubt. I'm tipping he's not out there in the first place based on most recent form and state of the art game style as defined by Bevo's mob last year... |
Crameri's a medium, not a true key position. And one with a high-end motor in him.
It seems their plan is to use Cloke as their long leading CHF,which releases Cordy into defence to fill the void left by Hamling (Cordy having been earmarked for key defence before their key forward stocks were decimated), with Crameri going in on a flank to push up onto the ball and T.Boyd as the deeper target who relieves Roughead in the ruck.
As an aside, I am quietly confident/dreading that Bevo will get Cloke going again... _________________ I am vengeance. I am the night. I am MagpieBat. |
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Stevo75
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Agree Batman that they are different players. I just don't see how they will fit him in the team? Their backline will be strengthened by their captain returning and because they play a team defence they don't necessarily need a number of key defenders? Murphy is an adequate replacement for Hamling anyway. Cloke is definitely good enough to play in their best team it all just depends on which Travis turns up?
As for good old whatsinaname who has tried to turn this thread into another "sack the coach" theme. Just give it a break. If you were a true supporter you would get behind the whole organisation with excitement and optimism. If you still don't understand the stance taken by Mr Cloke then read Member 7167's post again and it might sink in! |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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MagpieBat wrote: | uncanny wrote: | Stevo75 wrote: | Very difficult to dislike a premiership player but I'm glad he's gone. Some of his efforts last year were just disgraceful. For anyone with that much ability to just crack it and leave says it all. Clearly didn't value the team or his team mates and took the easy way out.
I've had this discussion with quite a few people and can't see him getting a game round 1. Who would they leave out? I also think Crameri suits their game style better so unless injuries come into it he'll be back in the VFL again. |
Agreed Stevo75. Crameri is the same sort of player and is surely ahead of him in the queue for round 1. I can't imagine they'd play both of them in the same forward line but then again, I'm not Bevo. It will burn deep if he nails the sodas he has missed routinely along with taking the chances in the first place. Since our last win against Melbourne Trav has been ordinary, aside from the win against GWS last year. You'd have to wonder what might be amiss at the pies if he played round 1 and turned back the clock. We'll be watching with interest no doubt. I'm tipping he's not out there in the first place based on most recent form and state of the art game style as defined by Bevo's mob last year... |
Crameri's a medium, not a true key position. And one with a high-end motor in him.
It seems their plan is to use Cloke as their long leading CHF,which releases Cordy into defence to fill the void left by Hamling (Cordy having been earmarked for key defence before their key forward stocks were decimated), with Crameri going in on a flank to push up onto the ball and T.Boyd as the deeper target who relieves Roughead in the ruck.
As an aside, I am quietly confident/dreading that Bevo will get Cloke going again... |
I'm pretty sure Cloke will have a great year, except for one thing.
If bevo gets him kicking straight he'll be taken by hogwarts, cos magic like that just aint allowed in a muggle world _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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I will quite happily Lau his arse back to the Holden Centre, in that case... _________________ I am vengeance. I am the night. I am MagpieBat. |
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Damien
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999 Location: Croydon Vic
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Mark goal. Straight as a gun barrel with his first kick as a bullldog. _________________ 'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
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MightyMagpie
Joined: 04 Jun 2013 Location: WA
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Damien wrote: | Mark goal. Straight as a gun barrel with his first kick as a bullldog. |
1.1.0 (15) _________________ All We Can Be |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Do you think I could ever be a gun barrel with his first kick as a bullldog? |
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ANNODAM
Rebel Heart Tour - The Forum, Los Angeles 27/10/2015.
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Location: Eltham, VIC.
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Suck shit Bullflogs!
It's a grand old flag...
HAHAHAHA!!!
LOLOLOLOLOL!!! _________________ WE WERE ROBBED, RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MEEE!
N.Y METS, N.Y GIANTS, PENRITH PANTHERS & HOBART HURRICANES FAN.
WE ALL LOOK GOOD AT TRAINING, IT'S THE MATCHES THAT COUNT! |
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