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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:04 pm
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They could have run their "counter protest" on the next day, showing that they were standing up and made it a positive event full of positive energy, rather than a shit fight.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:13 am
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I don't see why. This stuff ain't all sweetness and light. I'm against violence, but that doesn't mean I think protest should be treated like a Toastmasters event.
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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:32 am
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/19717/7-things-you-need-know-about-antifa-michael-qazvini?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:44 am
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Pretty accurate, though this article that they link to near the end is better:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/

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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:29 pm
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/investigations/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-killed-off-by-mob-connections/news-story/65a0e5289cc924722f988bdca4b01e9b

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-16/donald-trump-charlottesville-legitimise-violence-right-wing/8811502

Yes, HAL, "Oh, a web page" x 2.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:31 pm
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Are you still he or she don't think you should be allowed to post it if it is different from his or hers?
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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:39 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/15/donald-trump-charlottesville-republicans-react-bigotry

It's informative that a veritable who's who of the Republican Party including John McCain, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Steve Sivers, Cory Gardner, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy and Marco Rubio understands the vice in pretending that the white-supremacist and anti-white-supremacist positions are - or could ever be - equal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:19 pm
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And here's the Washington Post's editorial: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-nation-can-only-weep/2017/08/15/d9bd9a10-8202-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.dd4c2f082238

"TUESDAY WAS a great day for David Duke and racists everywhere. The president of the United States all but declared that he has their backs.

When a white supremacist stands accused of running his car into a crowd of protesters, killing one and injuring 19, Americans of goodwill mourn and demand justice. When this is done in the context of a rally where swastikas are borne and racist and anti-Semitic epithets hurled, the only morally justifiable reaction is disgust. When the nation’s leader does not understand this, the nation can only weep.

On Saturday, after the murder of an innocent protester in Charlottesville followed marches that included armed men and Nazi salutes, President Trump’s instinct was to blame both sides. Widespread criticism followed, including the resignations of business leaders from a White House advisory council and condemnation from political leaders of both parties. On Monday, Mr. Trump read a prepared statement condemning white supremacists and racism, delivering it in a manner suggesting he neither wrote nor endorsed the words. On Tuesday, he removed any doubt: His initial reaction, putting Nazis and those protesting them on equal moral footing, is how he really feels."
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:34 pm
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So next on their list must be Martin Lurher King Jnr?

He was dead set against gay marriage.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:46 pm
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^^^ If you'd like to start a thread about pulling down statues, by all means do so. This one is about Trump.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:03 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/15/donald-trump-charlottesville-republicans-react-bigotry

It's informative that a veritable who's who of the Republican Party including John McCain, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, Steve Sivers, Cory Gardner, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy and Marco Rubio understands the vice in pretending that the white-supremacist and anti-white-supremacist positions are - or could ever be - equal.

To which one may now add, along with everyone else in America capable of rational thought and using the internet, the "two Bush Presidents":

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/george-w-hw-bush-statement-bigotry-antisemitism-trump
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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:35 pm
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So all the Never Trumpers and those he made look like tools during the primaries are stacking on. You don't seem to really understand US politics at all, just parrot whatever crap the leftard Guardian tells you.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:41 pm
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Wokko wrote:
So all the Never Trumpers and those he made look like tools during the primaries are stacking on. You don't seem to really understand US politics at all, just parrot whatever crap the leftard Guardian tells you.


Now, now Wokko, that's not fair.
We should take into account the opinions of the Bush presidents.
After all, the older one was a CIA director and the younger started an illegal war that killed hundreds of thousands of people and also set up a torture camp at Guantanamo.
They clearly are the good guys here.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:16 pm
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Another "Sane, sensible" mob attempt to tear down the Peace Monument in Atlanta (it features an angel directing a confederate soldier to lay down his gun).
Mob stared down by black police officer. Perhaps he's in the KKK?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da6zSNCDLhE
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:30 pm
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Douches can be found on all sides of politics especially so at the extreme left or right and while I have no time for thuggery when trying to protest and make a point there still is a clear distinction between the parties.

One is marching to protest racism and division while the other is marching to champion it and adds nothing of value to the world.

Free speech is important and people are entitled to associate with like-minded individuals if they so wish but when you elect take it public, form groups, preach intolerance and instill fear within a section of the community don't be surprised if a majority are appalled, look to stare you down and hold you to account by words and actions.

If we fail to do this as a society then we'll repeat the mistakes of our past and allow an environment where hate groups are allowed to form and prosper like we saw with the KKK or Nazi party.

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