Post inauguration Trump:

[HAL]

Marvin Minsky.

[Pies4shaw]

[Pies4shaw]

Here's something else equally "funny": https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/01/18/i-just-dont-like-muslim-people-trump-appointee-resigns-after-racist-sexist-and-anti-gay-remarks/?utm_term=.7d132de9a322

[think positive]

Interesting points of view! Pretty much what I’ve been saying, the people were sick of the old politics

From Facebook, a post on the Political Cowboys page

How did Donald Trump happen?

It happened because you banned super-size sodas. And smoking in parks. And 'offensive' ideas on campus. Because you branded people who oppose gay marriage 'homophobic', and people unsure about immigration 'racist'. Because you treated owning a gun and never having eaten quinoa as signifiers of fascism. Because you thought correcting people's attitudes was more important than finding them jobs. Because you turned 'white man' from a description into an insult. Because you used slurs like 'denier' and 'dangerous' against anyone who doesn't share your eco-pieties. Because you treated dissent as hate speech and criticism of Obama as extremism. Because you talked more about gender-neutral toilets than about home repossessions. Because you beatified Caitlyn Jenner. Because you policed people's language, rubbished their parenting skills, took the piss out of their beliefs. Because you cried when someone mocked the Koran but laughed when they mocked the Bible. Because you said criticising Islam is Islamophobia. Because you kept telling people, "You can't think that, you can't say that, you can't do that". Because you turned politics from something done by and for the people to something done to them, for their own good. Because you treated people like shit. And people don't like being treated like shit. Trump happened because of you. - Brendan O'Neill

[thesoretoothsayer]

Spot on.
Johnathan Pie said the same thing after the election.
Recommended viewing for our leftist friends (language warning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

[Mugwump]

[think positive]

yes, but will he be the wake up call, the kick up the backside that the stuffed shirts need? thats what really matters. hey, if he (mates with) up as badly as everyone thinks he will, the next president with look like the Messiah without even trying, but who knows? i genuinely just hope some good comes out of it. ill let you know what the people think, im heading back to redneck country, Charlotte for the Coca Cola 600,(plus Vegas for a Motor bike auction, and Bryce Canyon & Zion National park to take lots of pictures!!) in May June and i always engage the locals!!

[stui magpie]

[sixpoints]

[think positive]

just watched it, good to see it has subtitles, and i agree with him 100%!!! so well done,
tagged for later to watch some more of his stuff, cheers

[sixpoints]

Can’t resist this little titbit.
Lovers of Trump & that right wing nonsense called Breitbart beware as Jonathan Pie really unloads !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0RMwjaZouNY

[Pies4shaw]

[Mugwump]

For a riff on cultural decline, you could compare the great, witty John Clarke to the jokeless student “comedian” Jonathan Pie, his threadbare routine held aloft by putting (mates with) where the laughs should be. A poor man’s Ben Elton ca 1985.

[David]

'Pie' belongs to the genre of American late-night TV 'comedians' like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, who – despite sometimes being erroneously referred to as 'satirists' – are really just cultural commentators / spoken-word op-ed writers who manage to keep their audience engaged by peppering their committee-written monologues with jokes every now and then.

The benefit of the 'comedian' label is that it keeps them from requiring any accountability; on the one hand, they are genuinely influential and fans treat them as reliable news sources; but if they misrepresent or obfuscate the facts, they can always fall back on the fact that they're mere comedy show presenters. 'Jonathan Pie' is a weird case because everybody knows that he's not a real person, but not one viewer actually treats him as a character, because he isn't one; it's just a framing device that the actor uses to present his (one presumes) genuinely-held views.

Having said all that, there is something of an art to the political rant, and he's certainly good at what he does – and, from time to time, like in the Trump video posted above, he can be very insightful. But I expect he's mostly just preaching to the choir, because comic rants are only for people who already agree with the message; those who don't (including many from the left, given the views expressed in that post-election video) will likely switch off. I find him entertaining, but I don't think he – or Oliver, or any of the other late-night TV show hosts – are actually contributing all that much to the public conversation. It's a guilty pleasure, that's all.

[Mugwump]

Good observation, David. But Colbert and Stewart are both far brighter and more engaging than JP and their committee-written jokes are at least funny or properly satirical. Pie is just another example of polarizing disagreement-by-abuse.... the thing he purports to despise in his “morning after Trump” rant.