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swoop42 Virgo

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:41 pm
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Bad dudes, bad dudes
What'cha gonna do when they come for you?

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Mountains Magpie wrote:
Skids wrote:
I like this interview...

http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/jewish_news.php?Itemid=25459

"We are not going to put up with the distortions and people who believe they have a monopoly on the truth, simply because they have 60 years of a letterhead above them.... Not going to happen"

BOOM!


What?

The mainstrean media is lying to us?

Well I'll be damned Laughing

All giggles aside, anyone suggesting that the US presidency is anti-semitic just hasn't been paying any attention whatsoever.


It's not as straight forward as you seem to imply.

The extent of anti-semitiic incidents has spiralled in the US since the advent of Trump - mostly due to the unleashing of the rednecks & white trash that makes the rump of trump believe they have been given a voice. The relative silence from Trump et al has been deafening.

(In the similar way that anti-semitic incidents are spiralling out of control in Europe with the rise of their right wing nut-jobs)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:56 pm
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What evidence do you have that rednecks and white trash are mostly responsible for the rise in anti-semitic attacks?

Trump responded here:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/politics/trump-reacts-to-recent-incidents-antisemitism-is-horrible

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stui magpie Gemini

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^^

very revealing term there, "White Trash"

On one hand, the poor low paid worker is being screwed over, then suddenly if they aren't university educated left wingers, they're white trash.

Trump's daughter converted to Judaism to marry her Jewish Husband didn't she?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:04 pm
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Spot on Stui. A classic example of identity politics at work.

Yes, Ivanka did convert.

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stui magpie Gemini

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"White trash" is a derogatory American English racial slur referring to poor white people, especially in the rural southern United States. The label signifies lower social class inside the white population and especially a degraded standards of living. The term has been adopted for people living on the fringes of the social order, who are seen as dangerous because they may be criminal, unpredictable, and without respect for authority whether it be political, legal, or moral.[1] The term is usually a racial slur,[2] but may also be used self-referentially by working class whites to jokingly describe their origins or lifestyle.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:16 pm
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"Outlets seeking to gain entry whose requests were denied included the Guardian, the New York Times, Politico, CNN, BuzzFeed, the BBC, the Daily Mail and others."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/24/media-blocked-white-house-briefing-sean-spicer

When the administration starts selecting only "tame", friendly media to be in the inner sanctum, it starts to look much more dangerous than just a movement of people who can't think complex thoughts, read, write or count.
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stui magpie wrote:
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"White trash" is a derogatory American English racial slur referring to poor white people, especially in the rural southern United States. The label signifies lower social class inside the white population and especially a degraded standards of living. The term has been adopted for people living on the fringes of the social order, who are seen as dangerous because they may be criminal, unpredictable, and without respect for authority whether it be political, legal, or moral.[1] The term is usually a racial slur,[2] but may also be used self-referentially by working class whites to jokingly describe their origins or lifestyle.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash


I'm referring to the KKK'ers etc who have been emboldened if not enabled by Trump

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Mountains Magpie wrote:
Spot on Stui. A classic example of identity politics at work.

Yes, Ivanka did convert.


Trump's campaign has let the feral's out.

Trump's campaign (as I noted above) allowed, emboldened & created the space for the rednecks (see KKK like groups) to come out of their cubby -holes & not just preach hate but start to terrorize communities

Here is just one example of many:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/05/richard-spencer-whitefish-neo-nazi-march

I have never said Trump is an Anti-Semite (he may well be but I don''t know) Trump & his campaign has unleashed a storm of racism. I said this during the campaign on Nicks as well.

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stui magpie wrote:
^^

very revealing term there, "White Trash"

On one hand, the poor low paid worker is being screwed over, then suddenly if they aren't university educated left wingers, they're white trash.

Trump's daughter converted to Judaism to marry her Jewish Husband didn't she?


1.. if you've think you've got a gotcha moment think again.
2. Your juxtaposition of low paid workers, left wing etc then white trash is yours exclusively & you're welcome to it. It has no merit & is bait.
3. Trumps daughter converting is utterly irrelevant.

See my response to MM above that is, Trumps campaign has created the conditions for racists & bigot's to be out & proud. I don't know if he is an Anti Semite or not but he through the campaign has enabled the redneck's that I've referred to

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stui magpie Gemini

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watt price tully wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
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"White trash" is a derogatory American English racial slur referring to poor white people, especially in the rural southern United States. The label signifies lower social class inside the white population and especially a degraded standards of living. The term has been adopted for people living on the fringes of the social order, who are seen as dangerous because they may be criminal, unpredictable, and without respect for authority whether it be political, legal, or moral.[1] The term is usually a racial slur,[2] but may also be used self-referentially by working class whites to jokingly describe their origins or lifestyle.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_trash


I'm referring to the KKK'ers etc who have been emboldened if not enabled by Trump


Well then you should have used that term rather than white Trash

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:11 pm
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"White trash" is sloppy shorthand. What WPT meant to refer to was "ignorant, indolent, stupid, unemployed, bigoted, deluded white people who should all be socialists but haven't got the political nous so instead voted in ridiculously large numbers for a member of the ruling elite in the mistaken belief that he might do anything to improve their pathetic lot and, in particular, have been confused into believing that their own incontinence is proof of the 'trickle down' effect."
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Mountains Magpie wrote:
What evidence do you have that rednecks and white trash are mostly responsible for the rise in anti-semitic attacks?

Trump responded here:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/politics/trump-reacts-to-recent-incidents-antisemitism-is-horrible


Too little, far too late & he wants it both ways. (see other responses). I'm not sure if Trump planned such racist responses but he's enabled & unleashed it through his divisive rhetoric & manipulative campaigning.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:13 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
"White trash" is sloppy shorthand. What WPT meant to refer to was "ignorant, indolent, stupid, unemployed, bigoted, deluded white people who should all be socialists but haven't got the political nous so instead voted in ridiculously large numbers for a member of the ruling elite in the mistaken belief that he might do anything to improve their pathetic lot and, in particular, have been confused into believing that their own incontinence is proof of the 'trickle down' effect."


^ Strange how such epithets are not applied to the self-destructive members of the black community. Perhaps they are honorary "socialists".

I think it is stupid to vote for Trump, partly for the reasons P4S suggests, but it is curious that people who profess liberal ideals should label poor people, white or black, "[insert ethnic identifier] trash."

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/24/donald-trump-cpac-speech-media

We are Americans, the US president said to rapturous applause, and the future belongs to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUXYu-QLKo
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