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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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That's the Trump defence right there. That's always been the Trump defence. Everyone is a liar, it's all fake news.
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time". A Lincoln |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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I'm not sure if I am ready for that yet. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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I wouldn't trust Cohen as far as I can throw him, now or at any time previously, but Trumpistas can't have it both ways: if Cohen is such a bad apple that nothing he says can be trusted, then what does that say about the guy who thought he would make a great personal lawyer? Let's face the facts: they're all crooks and always have been, and whether or not Trump eventually gets his comeuppance, he belongs in a prison cell. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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I care less about the finances of a Billionaire who went into politics than politicians who have become multi-millionaires while on a congressional salary.
If Trump is guilty of dodgy financial dealings as a real estate mogul and that's all they've got on him then nobody will give a shit except deranged democrats who want him executed for the crime of being a Republican already. Cohen shot down the Russia narrative, in effect exonerating Trump. The rest is just theatre. |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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People who don't believe in climate change are the same personality types who believed the earth was flat.
A proportion of the population being idiots would appear the one constant during the ages that can't be argued.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Wokko wrote: | I care less about the finances of a Billionaire who went into politics than politicians who have become multi-millionaires while on a congressional salary.
If Trump is guilty of dodgy financial dealings as a real estate mogul and that's all they've got on him then nobody will give a shit except deranged democrats who want him executed for the crime of being a Republican already. Cohen shot down the Russia narrative, in effect exonerating Trump. The rest is just theatre. |
Nobody, in that case, except for the law. You don't think that the prospect of a president being prosecuted for financial crimes might cause problems for him?
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-michael-cohen-testimony-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/michael-cohen-testimony/ _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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Highly unlikely that any prosecutor would indict a sitting President. Impeachment is possible but unlikely to succeed and as we saw with Clinton the public don't like partisan attacks on the Office of President. Clinton was going to get rolled in 1996 until the Republicans and Ken Starr went after him. Clinton was a total crook, 100% guilty of at least perjury and still didn't face indictment and the impeachment failed. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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This is news. |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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Some commentators say it was great for Trump, others say it was devastating. Still others say that the real issues for Teflon Don will be in the Southern District of NY’s investigation. I say none of them have a clue and instead of pretending they do, perhaps they should wait until there is an actual story.
In the meantime, it’s all very funny - provided you’re amused by watching the formerly-leading democracy in the World being run like a used car dealership. |
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thesoretoothsayer
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David wrote: | Wokko wrote: | I care less about the finances of a Billionaire who went into politics than politicians who have become multi-millionaires while on a congressional salary.
If Trump is guilty of dodgy financial dealings as a real estate mogul and that's all they've got on him then nobody will give a shit except deranged democrats who want him executed for the crime of being a Republican already. Cohen shot down the Russia narrative, in effect exonerating Trump. The rest is just theatre. |
Nobody, in that case, except for the law. You don't think that the prospect of a president being prosecuted for financial crimes might cause problems for him?
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-michael-cohen-testimony-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/michael-cohen-testimony/ |
So does this mean that the Hilary-financed Trump/Russia conspiracy is officially dead? Credit to Dore and a few others on the left who called "bullshit" from early on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hgWSrvXxzs |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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How do you assume this statement holds true for me? |
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Pies4shaw
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/02/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-republicans-ignorance
Ocasio-Cortez outrages Republicans by refusing to respect their ignorance
Arwa Mahdawi
Large swaths of America appear to be suffering from a debilitating condition known as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Derangement Syndrome (AOCDS). Symptoms include bouts of extreme condescension, an inability to stop sputtering the word “socialist”, and overwhelming anger that a young woman of colour is unapologetically succeeding.
The latest conservative to succumb to AOCDS is Grace-Marie Turner, the president of a non-profit devoted to “counter[ing] the march towards toward government-controlled medicine”. (Can we just pause for a moment and contemplate what sort of person spends their life trying to ensure there will never be affordable healthcare in the United States?)
On Tuesday Turner ranted in the Wall Street Journal that Ocasio-Cortez “has little regard for the system that made it possible for her to be elected to Congress”. Turner also lamented that the congresswoman “leads a generation of young people to take pride in their ignorance – of the laws of nature, of history, of the Constitution, of the eternal battle for freedom – and still succeed”.
As you can imagine, the congresswoman had a few words to say in response to this, tweeting on Thursday that: “I guess WSJ Editorial Page takes pride in their ignorance of our nation’s history of slavery, Jim Crow, & mass incarceration; willful doubt on the decades of science on climate change; targeting of indigenous peoples, and the classist, punitive agenda targeting working families.”
Ocasio-Cortez hit the bigoted nail on the head with that. After all, what Turner was essentially saying in her op-ed was that minorities should respect a system that doesn’t respect them. That Ocasio-Cortez, who “doesn’t come from a rich and powerful family”, doesn’t have an Ivy League education, and has Puerto Rican heritage, should be grateful she is allowed to exist in America, let alone succeed. And that AOC certainly shouldn’t mess with the laws of nature and history that mean rich white men, and a few rich white women, are our leaders and superiors. Turner, and conservatives like her, are terrified by Ocasio-Cortez because she symbolizes a new generation who aren’t going to shut up and be grateful, but are intent on changing an unequal system.
If you need any more evidence of how panicked conservatives are about the young congresswoman, just take a look at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, which features heavy doses of Ocasio-Cortez scaremongering. Perhaps the most ridiculous examples of this was Sebastian Gorka, a former Trump official, announcing to the crowd that democratic socialists like Ocasio-Cortez “want to rebuild your home … [and] take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved.” Republican men are clearly terrified AOC is coming for their meat. |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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A different take on it.....
AOC Rants After WSJ Writer Says She Leads Young People 'To Take Pride In Their Ignorance.' She Ends Up Proving Their Point.
Ocasio-Cortez’s tweet attacking Turner was typically redolent with ridiculousness, accusing the WSJ of being ignorant of America’s history. As recently as November, the Journal ran an article championing five books written about American slavery; last April the Journal ran a column from Jared Kushner extolling the idea of prison reform; the Journal ran an op-ed in November titled, “Climate Change Is Affordable,” and in July 2017 the Journal ran an article decrying federal hospitals’ treatment of Native Americans.
When Turner writes of Ocasio-Cortez leading young people to take pride in their ignorance, she need look no further than Ocasio-Cortez’s vitriolic, inaccurate, and highly-ignorant tweet targeting The Wall Street Journal.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44120/aoc-rants-after-wsj-writer-says-she-leads-young-hank-berrien _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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