 |
|
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Wokko 
Come and take it.
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
|
| Post subject: |  |
|
| What's there to analyze that hasn't been said a hundred times already if you'd care enough to challenge your views. The silly bint has been torn apart so thoroughly that she took the stupid plan down from her website. The republicans found it so stupid they're going to force a vote in the Senate to see if any Democrats would put their name to it. |
|
|
|
 |
pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
|
| Post subject: | |
|
^First, being in the wrong publication means a view must be wrong. Then, being taken down off a website means a view must be wrong. Finally, being mocked by a political party means a view must be wrong.
This seems a very indirect way of forming an opinion. What is your view, and why? Did you read the Forbes article?
_________________
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
|
|
|
|
Skids 
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
She's the gift that keeps on giving  How an absolute fruit cake like her, can be elected to a position in congress is itself, a joke.
When Trump was asked by a reporter at the event which burgers were his favorite (he ordered from McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's) he replied that he liked them all equally because they're all "great American food."
Apparently, AOC doesn't see it that way. While plugging her GND resolution on the season premier of Showtime's Desus & Mero this week, the Congresswoman said that Americans need to make some changes to their diet and not eat hamburgers for "breakfast, lunch and dinner" so we can address the 'problem' of factory farming.
"In the deal, what we talk about - and it’s true - is that we need to take a look at factory farming, you know? Period. It’s wild," Ocasio-Cortez said. "And so it’s not to say you get rid of agriculture. It’s not to say we’re gonna force everybody to go vegan or anything crazy like that. But it’s to say, 'Listen, we gotta address factory farming. Maybe we shouldn’t be eating a hamburger for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.' Like, let’s keep it real."
But it's not just our diets that need to change...it's everything (like, maybe, banning air travel, another one of the many shocking proposals from her GND resolution).
"But we have to take a look at everything," Ocasio-Cortez continued, "and what we need to realize about climate change is about every choice that we make in our lives, you know?"
By insisting that we give up hamburgers, AOC presents a paradox: In her now-removed GND FAQ page, the freshman Congresswoman called for getting rid of "farting cows". But how else are we supposed to get rid of them if we can't eat them?
Showtime released the entire season-opener of Desus & Mero on YouTube, allowing anybody to watch it for free. The interview with AOC begins around the 18-minute mark.
https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2019.02.23trump.png?itok=7UNvGTSC
She gives me almost as much joy as; Fast Forward, Hey Hey & the Paul Hogan show used to in my youth. I can't wait for her next 'brainstorm' idea to be announced.
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
David 
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
^ It's obviously just a turn of phrase – she's not literally suggesting that people are eating hamburgers for every meal, just that cutting down on consumption might be a good thing.
If you don't think there are environmental and ethical problems with factory farming (and think people are stupid for even bringing the topic up) then I don't really know what to say to you... maybe get out a bit more, read some science news and give the far-right blogosphere a break?
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Oh but you must love this scientific statement she made david?...
On Climate change...
"At this point, we don't even have to, like prove it, just walk outside in winter in a lot of places, and it's like, either way worse than you're used to, or way warmer than you're used to"
 .... Oh sheez, I've nearly wet myself... gotta go.
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Skids, until you accept the scientific consensus on climate change and stop pushing conspiracy theories, you don't get to laugh at anyone else for what they say on the subject. As it happens, weather extremes on both ends are a recognised outcome of climate change, so Ocasio-Cortez 1, Skids 0.
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| David wrote: | | Skids, until you accept the scientific consensus on climate change and stop pushing conspiracy theories, you don't get to laugh at anyone else for what they say on the subject. As it happens, weather extremes on both ends are a recognised outcome of climate change, so Ocasio-Cortez 1, Skids 0. |
Weather extremes
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Yep, check it out:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/01/climate-change-colder-winters-global-warming-polar-vortex/
| Quote: | As more Arctic air flows into southern regions, North America can expect to see harsher winters. That was the conclusion of a study published in 2017 in the journal Nature Geoscience. It found a link between warmer Arctic temperatures and colder North American winters. A separate study published in March of last year in the journal Nature Communications found the same link but predicted the northeastern portion of the U.S. would be particularly hard hit.
“Warm temperatures in the Arctic cause the jet stream to take these wild swings, and when it swings farther south, that causes cold air to reach farther south. These swings tend to hang around for awhile, so the weather we have in the eastern United States, whether it’s cold or warm, tends to stay with us longer," said study author Jennifer Francis in a press release. |
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
A study.. ..
Well here are some facts;
Hottest day on earth - 56.7 in 1913
Coldest day on earth - -89 degrees in 1983
Wettest day on earth - 71.8 inches 1966
Worst drought on earth - USA 1934
Shouldn't all of these records be happening right now if the doomsayers were correct? Peanuts like AOC, would remember what, the last 15 years of weather and she knows it's doom and gloom but just looking outside?
I can't wait for the day the climate change garbage is exposed as the con of the century.
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| David wrote: | Yep, check it out:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/01/climate-change-colder-winters-global-warming-polar-vortex/
| Quote: | As more Arctic air flows into southern regions, North America can expect to see harsher winters. That was the conclusion of a study published in 2017 in the journal Nature Geoscience. It found a link between warmer Arctic temperatures and colder North American winters. A separate study published in March of last year in the journal Nature Communications found the same link but predicted the northeastern portion of the U.S. would be particularly hard hit.
“Warm temperatures in the Arctic cause the jet stream to take these wild swings, and when it swings farther south, that causes cold air to reach farther south. These swings tend to hang around for awhile, so the weather we have in the eastern United States, whether it’s cold or warm, tends to stay with us longer," said study author Jennifer Francis in a press release. |
|
I posted about that phenomenon in the climate change thread. It's been happening forever. With global warming it may become more frequent.
This is a good balanced resource IMHO. https://climate.nasa.gov/
_________________
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| stui magpie wrote: | | David wrote: | Yep, check it out:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/01/climate-change-colder-winters-global-warming-polar-vortex/
| Quote: | As more Arctic air flows into southern regions, North America can expect to see harsher winters. That was the conclusion of a study published in 2017 in the journal Nature Geoscience. It found a link between warmer Arctic temperatures and colder North American winters. A separate study published in March of last year in the journal Nature Communications found the same link but predicted the northeastern portion of the U.S. would be particularly hard hit.
“Warm temperatures in the Arctic cause the jet stream to take these wild swings, and when it swings farther south, that causes cold air to reach farther south. These swings tend to hang around for awhile, so the weather we have in the eastern United States, whether it’s cold or warm, tends to stay with us longer," said study author Jennifer Francis in a press release. |
|
I posted about that phenomenon in the climate change thread. It's been happening forever. With global warming it may become more frequent.
This is a good balanced resource IMHO. https://climate.nasa.gov/ |
Cheers Stui, the 1st thing I clicked on, was 'evidence' ... and saw that dramatic graph. The graph's proportion has been doctored to look extreme, when, in fact, it isn't!
Take the recent peak, it equates to about 0.4%. The next highest peak, in this half a billion years (only 5% of earths existanc) is 0.3%.... not a big change really, is it?
There's also the 'lowest' point on the graph (0.18%) just before the exaggerated climb to around 1950.
Why, with such wonderful technology available, do they only choose to highlight the last 5% of earths existence? And why, do they display it in such a narrow frame?
I'll tell you why... it's bullshit.
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003
Location: Andromeda
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Why would the Earth's CO2 levels more than 500,000 years ago be in any way relevant? If you go back far enough, the planet was an uninhabitable ball of fire – and even the absolute worst-case future climate catastrophes wouldn't eradicate life on Earth (cockroaches and anglerfish will probably survive anything), just human life. So clearly, the most relevant data set surrounds the existence of homo sapiens, and half a million years more than covers it.
It's always important to be conscious of how graphs present data, but I would have thought a level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that's at least 25% bigger than it ever had been before in the history of the human species (and seemingly growing rapidly by the decade) would be worth remarking on.
_________________
All watched over by machines of loving grace |
|
|
|
|
Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Port Melbourne
|
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Yeah a great character 
My favourite part of his testimony.... "I have lied... but I am not a liar" 
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| David wrote: | Why would the Earth's CO2 levels more than 500,000 years ago be in any way relevant? If you go back far enough, the planet was an uninhabitable ball of fire – and even the absolute worst-case future climate catastrophes wouldn't eradicate life on Earth (cockroaches and anglerfish will probably survive anything), just human life. So clearly, the most relevant data set surrounds the existence of homo sapiens, and half a million years more than covers it.
It's always important to be conscious of how graphs present data, but I would have thought a level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that's at least 25% bigger than it ever had been before in the history of the human species (and seemingly growing rapidly by the decade) would be worth remarking on. |
My point exactly.
Maybe we should be looking at what the dinosaurs got up to, they obviously got up to some nasty climate changing antics.
_________________
Don't count the days, make the days count. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum
|
|
The Rules
FAQ
Usergroups
Calendar
Search
Log in
Register
