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swoop42 
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| swoop42 wrote: | | In the end he parts the brown eye. |
Turns water into lube? |
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David 
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The sermon on the mount would certainly have different connotations.
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stui magpie 
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| David wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | C'mon, seriously? You should be embarrassed to make the comparison |
Well, let's not then. We have plenty of other threads in which to discuss the merits of Islam. |
Charlie Hebdo (thanks Jezza), people with assault rifles and bombs attacking workplaces and killing innocents vs letters and twitter outrage, I know which one I'd rather face.
Your cognitive dissonance is strong.
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Pies4shaw 
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The Christian Right made a lot of noise about Life of Brian and also about a variety of literary and visual depictions of Christ.
My recollection is that a theatre in Paris was firebombed in the 1980s during a screening of The Last Temptation of Christ. But I can't really imagine the tolerant French would ever have done such a thing, committed as they apparently are to freedom of speech. |
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stui magpie
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Did they firebomb the theatre while people were inside?
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Pies4shaw
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| stui magpie wrote: | | David wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | C'mon, seriously? You should be embarrassed to make the comparison |
Well, let's not then. We have plenty of other threads in which to discuss the merits of Islam. |
Charlie Hebdo (thanks Jezza), people with assault rifles and bombs attacking workplaces and killing innocents vs letters and twitter outrage, I know which one I'd rather face.
Your cognitive dissonance is strong. |
"Twitter outrage" doesn't quite capture the efforts of, eg, the Ku Klux Klan, the Crusades, the anti-Semitic pogroms, the efforts of the anti-Balaka groups in the Central African Republic (targeting killings of Muslims), the Indian NLFT (targeting killings of Hindus), the various Lebanese Christian militia, Joseph Kony's followers in Uganda etc etc.
Christians have a pretty good history of terrorising disbelievers and people who are different. It is true that some Muslims are baddies at present. As I've previously pointed out, though, in the history of terrorism that's a relatively recent thing and, thinking about the long-term stats, they've got a lot of serious killing to get on with if they're going to catch up. |
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Pies4shaw
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
Did they firebomb the theatre while people were inside? |
That's my recollection (I have a vague recollection of seeing news footage of people being rushed off to the burns unit) - but I'm sure you'll tell me if that isn't correct.
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stui magpie
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yeah well I'm not overly interested in the history, the Irish wars were Christians v Christians too.
We can point to our 4 flags nearly 100 years ago, but what has Hawthorn done in the last few decades?
How's the record sit over the last 20 years?
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stui magpie
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | ^
Did they firebomb the theatre while people were inside? |
That's my recollection (I have a vague recollection of seeing news footage of people being rushed off to the burns unit) - but I'm sure you'll tell me if that isn't correct.
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I have NFI, that's why i asked. 
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Pies4shaw
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
yeah well I'm not overly interested in the history, the Irish wars were Christians v Christians too.
We can point to our 4 flags nearly 100 years ago, but what has Hawthorn done in the last few decades?
How's the record sit over the last 20 years? |
Unsurprisingly, it's been pretty poor since US-led coalition forces have been serially carpet bombing and occupying countries with large Muslim populations. But, even so, 20 years is a pretty arbitrary timeframe. Apart from it being convenient for your argument, is there some specific reason you chose it?
I'm not interested in diminishing how awful what is presently happening at the hands of some Muslims is but the Islamic manifestation of violent religious intolerance is a reasonably recent phenomenon. It'll probably turn out to be a passing thing.
Anyway, if they had Twitter in the CAR in the last 5 years, I'm sure the anti-Balaka will have given it a spin. Likewise, the Indians and the Kony folk, if you extend the timeframe to 10 years.
There's actually quite a bit of terrorism going on all over the world. The part that gets serious reportage is the part directed at the bits of the World we give a stuff about. And, of course, the Muslim terror attacks in the "West" are dwarfed by the scale and mayhem of Muslim terror attacks against other Muslims. |
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stui magpie
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If you look at the big picture, and most people don't, I'll pay your comments.
However, in the close up view in various places, some intervention is required, Just waiting it out won't work. There's a reason these things are cyclical, they meet resistance and die off.
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Pies4shaw
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| Of course intervention is required. But these things are probably also cyclical as much because they run out of steam as because they meet resistance. |
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stui magpie
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Pies4shaw
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| It might look like the same thing but I don't think it is. We always seem to be in the grip of some terrorist threat and it always seems like the authorities are powerless to stop it and then, just when you think that the Caped Crusader is the only one who can save us, pfft - the threat vanishes. It doesn't seem to be bombed into oblivion, it just pulls the pin on terror as a strategy. Except in the mid-West, there are probably not enough cone-headed religio-psychopaths around to keep any particular terror on the boil for more than a few years. |
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Mugwump
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Unsurprisingly, it's been pretty poor since US-led coalition forces have been serially carpet bombing and occupying countries with large Muslim populations. |
I can't think of any largely Muslim-populated land where the US has conducted "Carpet bombing", let alone "serially". Perhaps you could stretch that term to apply to the Road to Basra in the First Gulf War, but that was a military convoy during a state of declared war.
Nor, apart from Iraq, can I think of "serial occupations" of Muslim countries.
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