Climate change

[Pies4shaw]

It’s very cold in Illinois and Minnesota....

[stui magpie]

[Skids]

[stui magpie]

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Can't be that. These Polar Vortex's are a natural event, last one was only 4 years ago. They're caused partly by warmer air from land drifting north and dirsupting/ displacing some of the cold arctic air, pushing it south.

Considering even the climate scientists are saying that it's possible that global warming may be contributing to the frequency these events occur increasing, I'd hardly say this even is a slam dunk that we're all rooned.

It's also possible that these polar vortex's frequency is increasing is due to the earth being geologically due for another ice age (or glacial period) very soon and this is exactly how they start.

He can't be referring to the hot weather we're having, it's summer time, this happens in Australia.

Can't be the storms in Townsville either, as the tropical north cops this kind of shit every year. (hopefully some of the water finds it's way through the darling river system on it's way to flooding Lake eyre)

So, FIIK how you suddenly have egg on your moosh.

[stui magpie]

[Pies4shaw]

It is, of course, always a worry when people have beliefs they hold with religious fervour. Religious fervour makes any person dangerous and irrational. It’s a form of mental illness.

That said, if people are going to take a side without understanding precisely how the climate system operates, it’s probably better that they accept what the vast majority of the world’s scientists say than wear their belligerent and bone-headed contrarianism as a badge of pride.

[stui magpie]

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Little chance of that I'm afraid, the climate change zealots are too far gone to pay attention to sense, they just go with the prevailing tide.

[partypie]

Global warming was a name coined by journalists, not scientists. Scientists generally became concerned in the 70s (and before that) when they started measuring the impact of deforestation in the Amazon and the loss of oxygen in the atmosphere. The CSIRO started predicting that initially there would be more extreme weather events but overall, the trend would be hotter and drier. So far these predictions have been correct. At the time tree planting on a large scale was seen as part of the solution, (also for the Murray Darling) but not much has happened in that regard even though decades have passed. The zealotry of believers and deniers is not helping, nor is the fact that our standard of living is perceived by many be dependent on activities that are adding to the carbon load.

[Skids]

Don't you just love the smugness of the pretentious climate change band wagon sheep?
They love an opinion... as long as it agrees with theirs

Is Global Warming A Hoax? Discover The Climate Change Facts And Fiction. 30/1/2019

But a growing contingent of scientists and economists call into question the climate change dogma, saying that the temperature data show no clear recent warming and noting that the benefits of global warming, if it existed, might be greater than the costs. This split will define the political debate in the near term.

Climate Change Reality Check

The fact is, our climate changes all the time. As a highly complex system, climate is inherently unstable. Saying "climate change" is merely stating an obvious fact: it's never not changing. And claiming it's all due to human-made CO2 runs into a central issue: All of the statistical models assume that increases in CO2 will lead inevitably to higher temperatures. It's science, the activists say.

Unfortunately, for 20 years now, average temperatures have shown little if any change at all, even though CO2 concentrations have gone up. This is contradiction can't be argued away.


But it isn't just the media doing this. Just 11 years ago, former Vice President Al Gore, who won a Nobel Prize for his unhinged, unscientific global warming advocacy, warned "there is a 75% chancethat the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years."

Ice, Ice Baby

That was in 2009. Jump ahead five years to 2014. As IBD wrote later, "By 2014, Arctic ice had grown thicker and covered a greater area than it did when (Gore) made his prediction."

Just wondering, but has the Nobel committee revoked Gore's award yet?



https://www.investors.com/politics/global-warming-hoax-climate-change-facts/

[David]

Climate sceptics love to focus on Al Gore’s mistakes because it’s much easier to criticise or ad-hom an individual than to deal with vast scientific consensus (apart from vague claims about shadowy conspiracies). But let’s not forget that Gore isn’t even a climate scientist, and how he decides to source or present data has no bearing on where the science is (which is that Arctic sea ice is rapidly declining and may be gone in summer within 20-30 years).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ice-caps-melt-gore-2014/

As the article above shows, the climate science community is perfectly able to vigorously debate predictions and pull public figures up when they misspeak or misrepresent data, and it seems they’ve done so with Gore in this case. But the existence and general seriousness of anthropogenic climate change doesn’t seem to be in serious contention.

[Wokko]

There was far less arctic sea ice during the Roman and Medieval warming periods, both periods that were warmer and more prosperous than today.

None of the computer modelling has panned out, none of the doomsayers predictions have come true, the climate change industry has shown to be full of liars and frauds but we're meant to listen to the models and predictions this time around because... reasons?

Looks like that 10-12 years to avert catastrophe just keeps getting reset every time until those pushing this agenda get what they want.

[Culprit]

Climate Change Scientists predicted extreme weather conditions to increase. I'm pretty much witnessing extreme weather conditions. Believe what you want to believe, I prefer to act and if all these scientists are wrong then so be it. By the time any theory may turn into reality I and many others will be dead, so I can see why people don't give a toss and deny everything presented to them.

I do like how we are so advanced that we can now polish a turd, coal is now miraculously now become clean coal.

[Skids]

[Skids]

Don't think we can attribute too many of the worlds 20 worst floods to Climate change.
1
1,000,000–4,000,000 1931 China floods China 1931

2
900,000–2,000,000 1887 Yellow River flood China 1887

3
500,000–800,000 1938 Yellow River flood China 1938

4
229,000 Typhoon Nina China 1975

5
145,000 1935 Yangtze river flood China 1935

6
100,000+ St. Felix's Flood, storm surge Netherlands 1530

7
100,000 Hanoi and Red River Delta flood North Vietnam 1971

8
up to 100,000[citation needed] 1911 Yangtze river flood China 1919

9
50,000–80,000 St. Lucia's flood, storm surge Holy Roman Empire 1287

10
60,000 North Sea flood, storm surge Holy Roman Empire 1212

11
40,000 [1] 1949 Eastern Guatemala flood Guatemala 1949

12
36,000 St. Marcellus flood, storm surge Holy Roman Empire 1219

13
30,000 1954 Yangtze River floods China 1954

14
28,700 1974 Bangladesh flood due to monsoon rain Bangladesh 1974

15
25,000–40,000 St. Marcellus flood / Grote Mandrenke, storm tide Holy Roman Empire, Denmark 1362

16
20,000 1999 Vargas mudslide Venezuela 1999

17
20,000 All Saints' Flood, storm surge Holy Roman Empire 1570

18
20,000 1939 Tianjin flood China 1939

19
14,000 Christmas flood, storm surge Netherlands, Germany, Denmark 1717

20
10,000–100,000 St. Elizabeth flood, storm surge Holy Roman Empire 1421




Or these heat waves...

July 1757 heatwave, Europe, hottest summer in 500 years prior to 2003.

1896 Eastern North America heat wave killed 1,500 people in August 1896.

1900 – The historical heatwave of the center of Argentina between the first eight days of February 1900 known as "the week of fire" affects the city of Buenos Aires and Rosario with temperatures of up to 37 °C (98.6 °F) but with a very high index of humidity that elevates the sensation of heat to 49 °C (120.2 °F) severely affecting the health of people causing at least more than 478 fatalities.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heat_waves

[David]

Fluctuations in climate and the natural disasters that they bring about have, of course, occurred throughout human history. It's when these fluctuations are hitting new upper extremes and frequency that we have a serious problem.