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Pies4shaw 
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| It’s a very necessary attempted back-track, whatever he “intended” the first time. |
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stui magpie 
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David, the way the world is heading we're as likely to have a world where people give others the benefit of the doubt instead of automatically assuming the worst according to their own bias and motivations as we are to have a successful world wide Socialist government
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Morrigu 
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| David wrote: | | I do think it’s good practice to give people the benefit of the doubt and not automatically assume the worst about their motivations. |
Yeah, Nah, Maybe - but not this numpty he has proven his lack of anything remotely intelligent, empathetic, compassionate over a great many years - self serving tool who should be retired to the $2 sale bin!! |
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Skids 
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A big chunk of bushfires, here in WA, are caused by arsonists.
The Greens wank about burn offs aids them.in their goal.
How a climate, supposedly warming by 1 or 2 degrees can be held accountable, is as simplistic as the fools who follow the cult that is 'climate change'.... absolute idiocy.
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watt price tully 
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The beetrooter knows why the fires started: same school of climate science as Skids
Barnaby Joyce’s claim that changes to the sun’s magnetic fields were linked to the bushfires burning out of control across NSW have been rubbished by climate scientists.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/barnaby-joyce-says-sun-s-magnetic-fields-cause-bushfires-science-says-20191112-p539xb.html
To be fair to the beetrooter he also noted:
The former deputy prime minister told Sky News he accepted that the climate crisis was making Australia hotter and drier.
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think positive 
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| David wrote: | I suspect he’s been misinterpreted. Obviously it was a clumsy and stupid thing to say, but I think his clarification makes sense:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/joyce-suggests-two-people-who-died-in-nsw-fires-most-likely-voted-for-the-greens-20191112-p539v1.html
| Quote: | [Joyce] told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age his criticism was directed at people - including those in his own party - who were trying to pin the blame on "greenies" or Greens voters.
"You cannot accuse people based on the party they’re in," he said. "It’s not the bloody Greens' fault. They’re the ones at Wytaliba who all got wiped out.
"The people who vote for a certain party [the Greens] are getting just as hurt and probably more so than other people."
Mr Joyce, who was fighting fire near his family's property on Tuesday, said he wanted to "punch the f--king lights out" of those people who had misinterpreted his remarks. |
Tensions and emotions are running pretty high right now, understandably, and given that, someone as gaffe-prone as Joyce probably should be keeping his mouth shut at all costs. But otherwise, I do think it’s good practice to give people the benefit of the doubt and not automatically assume the worst about their motivations. |
He said what he said, nothing to misinterpret, maybe he misspoke who knows? He should not have gone there full stop.
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David
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If you've ever wondered if the government is as bad on climate change as they appear to be, well, seems like they are:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/11/australia-climate-response-among-worst-g20
| Quote: | While the report doesn’t provide an overall ranking, Australia appears consistently among the worst performers in the report’s analysis.
India and Australia were the only two G20 countries that had not introduced, or were not considering, policies to price greenhouse gas emissions, the report said.
Only South Korea and Canada were further away than Australia from meeting the pledges that formed their Paris climate commitments.
On deforestation, the report said Australia was the only developed country that was a “deforestation hotspot”, but had no policies to tackle it.
Australia was ranked third worst for transport emissions per capita, and the report found “Australia, in particular, lacking significant policy” in the transport sector. Per capita emissions from aviation were 53 times higher than India’s.
Australia, along with Russia, had no policies to move away from petrol-powered cars, no policies to decarbonise the heavy-duty vehicle sector and no policies to shift people onto public transport, the report said. |
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stui magpie
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Deforestation hotspot? How many tens of thousands of hectares of forests do we have locked away as national parks?
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David
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A lot less in Tasmania now, it seems.
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watt price tully
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| stui magpie wrote: |
....How many tens of thousands of hectares of forests do we have locked away as national parks? |
Not enough
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stui magpie
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But you can bet your house they're all bushfire timebombs
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Skids
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So, can one of the doomsayers tell me, what role 'climate change' played in THE WORST fire in Australian history... you know, Black Thursday, February 1851?
Or THE WORST drought in Australian history.... you know, The 1895-1903 drought period was probably Australia's worst to date, in terms of both its severity and area - affecting practically the whole of Australia at various times but more persistently in parts of eastern and central Australia. Stock and crop losses were apparently the highest in Australian history.
https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/lookup/1301.0Feature%20Article151988
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watt price tully
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| stui magpie wrote: | | But you can bet your house they're all bushfire timebombs |
Only if:
1. There was no such thing as climate change (context) and
2. Various governments don’t slash funding to Forest protection, National Park management and the like
Given both the above occurred and are occurring then yes ur right.
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David
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| Skids wrote: | So, can one of the doomsayers tell me, what role 'climate change' played in THE WORST fire in Australian history... you know, Black Thursday, February 1851?
Or THE WORST drought in Australian history.... you know, The 1895-1903 drought period was probably Australia's worst to date, in terms of both its severity and area - affecting practically the whole of Australia at various times but more persistently in parts of eastern and central Australia. Stock and crop losses were apparently the highest in Australian history.
https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/lookup/1301.0Feature%20Article151988 |
Because outliers don't necessarily indicate trends. As anyone with a high school understanding of maths would understand.
Sorry, it's pretty tiresome to have to explain absolutely elementary concepts incessantly just because you've decided to reject an entire scientific field outright. If you people had decided to obsess about astronomy and disprove the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun, I'm sure we'd be having endless discussions about basic physics: yeah, well, how come the planets don't fall into the sun, then? Why do the sun and the moon just conveniently appear to be the exact same size? Why is the sky blue if space is outside? But no, here we are instead discussing why an extreme drought in 1895 doesn't disprove long-term climate change.
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Wokko 
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| If the Climate Cultists hadn't lied every step of the way, using fake models and tweaking statistics to suit their agenda or ensure funding/tenure while using a compliant press to push propaganda and destructive wealth redistribution policies then you wouldn't have that problem. |
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