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Who is Collingwood's most important player in 2017? |
Alex Fasolo |
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Daniel Wells |
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Brodie Grundy |
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Billy Elliott |
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9% |
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Adam Treloar |
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Scott Pendelbury |
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Ben Reid |
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Steele Sidebottom |
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Darcy Moore |
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Other |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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Pendles
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Treloar
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Would LOVE to see WHE be a gun and Elliot and Shazza return with all guns blazing.
IF all this happens, put us down for somewhere between 6 - 8 I reckon. _________________ Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
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duke750
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Location: Buderim QLD
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Interesting post whats'inaname...
I too believe that this post really looks at who we would really miss. And yes, Pendles is our best player, but we could probably get by without him. Grundy is good and has made progress but is still not a really dominant all around ruckman.
To me, now that Class ken is gone Moore is the main key forward, he is critical to our success. If he goes down, or goes missing, we will be dependent on a lot of smaller players such as Elliot and Fesola, or inconsistent players like White and Cox, or untested people like Cox.
Huge responsibility for such a young forward. Good reason to rotate Pendles and Sidney out of the forward line rather than the bench. _________________ Magpies forever.
First Colligwood game: Western Oval 1960 |
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magpieazza
magpieazza
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Location: Griffith N.S.W
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There are arguments for alot of players, but if I had to pick 1 it would be Reid.
What I usually ask myself is, if I had to pick 3 players that I want to improve while all the rest played at their usual standards , who would they be....then sometimes I increase it to 5 then 7 then 10...
3 players would be...Reid...then Elliott...then Moore
add a couple more....Fasolo...then Scharenberg
add a couple more...Broomhead...then Aish
add a couple more...DeGoey....then Maynard
and so on.
It virtually means the second tier of players who I want to bring their best game to the table to support Pendles, Treloar, Sidebottom, Grundy, Adams.
Maybe Grundy should be listed in the Improvers list...
It really is a squad game these days as injuries play a vital role, almost to the point that if your club has very few injuries then you should be able to make the top four at least.
So for me knowing what Im already getting from the mainstays and A graders, I look forward to seeing the likes of Moore, Broomhead, Aish, Fasolo, Elliott and DeGoey having a good year.....also Mayne, WHE, Dunn, Wells...
There are heaps of players that can make this club great again and Im excited for 2017 !!
I believe we traded very well and did what we had to, to get who we wanted.
Mayne could be the story of the year!! _________________ Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero. |
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magpieazza
magpieazza
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Location: Griffith N.S.W
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BTW my best 26/28 are.
Ramsay...Dunn...Scharenberg
Varcoe...Reid...Maynard
Sidebottom...Adams...Wells
Whe...Mayne...Howe
Elliott...Moore...Fasolo
Grundy...Pendlebury...Treloar
Broomhead..Crisp..DeGoey...(the best tall out of White, McLarty or Keeffe)
Emerg..Greenwood, Wills, Smith, Blair. _________________ Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero. |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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What'sinaname wrote: | Travis Cloke.
If he returns to AA form and destroys us in round 1 |
And it's going to happen. Nothing surer.
Not on this planet though. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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Our most important player? Dunn.
I hope that Dunn doesn't get a senior game.
No, not because I have anything against the guy, but because if Dunn is fit and can't get selected, that means that Reid and Keefe are doing well at CHB and FB, and it also means that Ramsay, Maynard, 'Berg, Howe, and/or Langdon are in such good form as medium rebounders that we feel no need to redeploy Reid as a mobile floating defender.
In short, if Dunn is fit and can't get a game, our defence will be in top shape. If you have a great defence, you'll win more matches than you lose. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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Tannin wrote: | Our most important player? Dunn.
I hope that Dunn doesn't get a senior game.
No, not because I have anything against the guy, but because if Dunn is fit and can't get selected, that means that Reid and Keefe are doing well at CHB and FB, and it also means that Ramsay, Maynard, 'Berg, Howe, and/or Langdon are in such good form as medium rebounders that we feel no need to redeploy Reid as a mobile floating defender.
In short, if Dunn is fit and can't get a game, our defence will be in top shape. If you have a great defence, you'll win more matches than you lose. |
Smith, Greenwood and Crisp are similar barometers. Were good enough to get a game whenever they were available last year but not in most people's best 22. If these three cant get games this year (and they are as good as they were last year), you will have seen great improvement from the club.
I would love someone to surprise me this year by really stepping their game either from good to elite or from kid to potential star.
I live Aish, DeGoey, Moore, Adams and Fasolo for the former.
My dad thinks Seir is the darkehorse for the latter. I dont know about that, but could it be Wills or McLarty? _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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How do you like living there? |
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The Average Tourist
Joined: 08 Apr 2010
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Tannin wrote: | Our most important player? Dunn.
I hope that Dunn doesn't get a senior game.
No, not because I have anything against the guy, but because if Dunn is fit and can't get selected, that means that Reid and Keefe are doing well at CHB and FB, and it also means that Ramsay, Maynard, 'Berg, Howe, and/or Langdon are in such good form as medium rebounders that we feel no need to redeploy Reid as a mobile floating defender.
In short, if Dunn is fit and can't get a game, our defence will be in top shape. If you have a great defence, you'll win more matches than you lose. |
Excellent post and I agree 100% _________________ Bucks you just reckon he can still cut it in the middle |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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De Goey |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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Understand the posters who claim Pendles is our most important player. He's clearly our best. Some suggest the only elite player which I disagree with as I think Treloar finished 2016 as an elite mid.
Personally though I've looked at this as a question of who we could least afford to lose. I'd hate to go without Pendles for any games but the midfield runs deep and while lacking experience, contains numbers of developing prospects and I'm optimistic a couple of them will take great strides toward delivering on potential from this season. Think players like DeGoey and Aish. And we've added Wells who adds experience and class. Consequently not a huge difference btween mids 1-10 over 2-11.
Conversely, losing any of Grundy, Reid, or Moore would really hurt. Yes, as has been suggested, we could cobble together some level of coverage, but the drop in class would be significant. Hence, they were my 3 and in that order. |
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kymbo5@yahoo.com.au
Joined: 23 Mar 2014
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Some excellent posts here, agree with a lot of the points but I think Moore is the player we need to play consistently well and the one we can least afford to lose. Much like Pebbles was our most important player in his era, Moore has a lot of effect on our structure, will influence the role Elliott, Blair, etc will play as small forwards. If he takes two backman, then surely the forwards reap the rewards. Moore kicks well so if he takes multiple grabs near goal he is so dangerous.
Losing Reid would be awful but White, Dunn, Howe and Keefe are there. Not in Reid's league but good back up. _________________ kymbo |
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Fatui Attata
Joined: 29 Sep 2009
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If I was an opposition supporter and it was the Grand Final, I would be most stoked if Pendlebury was out injured. Most influential player in black & white. Peerless all over the ground and, in his own way, a General. _________________ I'm not the pheasant plucker I'm the pheasant plucker's son, and I'll be plucking pheasants til the pheasant plucker comes! "Try saying that with a mouthful of peanuts!!" Lou Richards |
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69 years a MAGPIE
Joined: 12 Oct 2015 Location: Hong Kong
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I'd like to look at the question slightly differently. My belief, long held, is that the 3rd tier players (bottom 6-7 if you like) are the difference. Last couple of years, this group of players has been our weakness due to injuries, youth and development. Look at Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong in recent years, and see why they have been so successful. So, who are those 6-7 players that need to step up or be replaced? Have we improved the group by the addition of Wells, Maine, WHE, Dunne and the draft? I think we have and if our Tier 1 and 2 players stay fit and develop further, we can be a force. _________________ No one needs to get hurt, it's only business. |
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Number 35
Joined: 17 Apr 2016
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Good post, I think the 6-7 players that will break into this team and recharge us will be.
Elliot Wells Mayne Dunne Thomas Keefe Scharenberg.
Our bottom 6-7 on the ground including bench could be White Crisp Thomas Dunne Maynard Scharenberg and Aish. Or DeGoey/WHE
Thats a strong bottom 6 with great potential. Reminds me of 2010 Dawes Beams Sidebottom Wellingham Blair McCafeer etc...Then we have the formula for a team ready to compete with the sky as the limit. Dermott Brerton said games are won and lost in Finals by the strength and output of your bottom 6 players. It was the differnce for us in 2010 like it surely would have been for the doggies last year.
As for our most important player.
Pendlebury will win the brownlow this year.
Mark My Words _________________ Gavin Brown.. Collingwood lifting..Right on the boundary line, back to Milane likewise... DAICOS nearly runs out of room........ GOAL |
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