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jackcass 
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| derkd wrote: | | Member 7167 wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | It's very disappointing that the club felt obliged to lie about this. It's like our club has a siege mentality, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like there are a bunch of children running our football department. An adult response to queries about Wells would have been something like "yeah, he felt a bit of a twinge in his calf, so we're going to lighten his work load for a while until he feels 100 per cent again". It aint hard really. |
I agree RudeBoy. The club has to be more transparent with issues like this especially during the preseason when there is not tactical advantage in not given opposition teams insight into your injuries and potential weaknesses. There is certainly an aspect of integrity and keeping faith with the supporters.
Let's be honest, the chances of Wells playing for us for 3 years without injury is a very long shot. |
The club and Buckley have painted themselves into a corner.....This year has to be the year for some form of success. Bucks has already said it is this year or bust" (regarding finals).
The signing of Wells smacks of desperation for some form of success. I really hope that he is a gun and makes me eat humble pie. He is 31 and aside from last year has had awful run with injuries..... How does that equate to a 3 year contract?
Anyway i hope he proves my fears wrong is all i will say. |
Rubbish! The Pies should be no more or less desperate for success in 2017 than they are any other year. It should always be the number 1 priority.
The recruiting of Wells (currently 31) as a short term replacement for Swanny (currently 32) was a logical move given the age/experience profile of our squad. |
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| jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: | | Member 7167 wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | It's very disappointing that the club felt obliged to lie about this. It's like our club has a siege mentality, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like there are a bunch of children running our football department. An adult response to queries about Wells would have been something like "yeah, he felt a bit of a twinge in his calf, so we're going to lighten his work load for a while until he feels 100 per cent again". It aint hard really. |
I agree RudeBoy. The club has to be more transparent with issues like this especially during the preseason when there is not tactical advantage in not given opposition teams insight into your injuries and potential weaknesses. There is certainly an aspect of integrity and keeping faith with the supporters.
Let's be honest, the chances of Wells playing for us for 3 years without injury is a very long shot. |
The club and Buckley have painted themselves into a corner.....This year has to be the year for some form of success. Bucks has already said it is this year or bust" (regarding finals).
The signing of Wells smacks of desperation for some form of success. I really hope that he is a gun and makes me eat humble pie. He is 31 and aside from last year has had awful run with injuries..... How does that equate to a 3 year contract?
Anyway i hope he proves my fears wrong is all i will say. |
Rubbish! The Pies should be no more or less desperate for success in 2017 than they are any other year. It should always be the number 1 priority.
The recruiting of Wells (currently 31) as a short term replacement for Swanny (currently 32) was a logical move given the age/experience profile of our squad. |
Yes we have missed the finals for several years but at times we have played some excellent football, it amazes me that a vast number of fans dont understand the recruitment of a player like Wells, or even Mayne.
We still lack experience and through experience comes consistency. |
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| themonk wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: | | Member 7167 wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | It's very disappointing that the club felt obliged to lie about this. It's like our club has a siege mentality, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like there are a bunch of children running our football department. An adult response to queries about Wells would have been something like "yeah, he felt a bit of a twinge in his calf, so we're going to lighten his work load for a while until he feels 100 per cent again". It aint hard really. |
I agree RudeBoy. The club has to be more transparent with issues like this especially during the preseason when there is not tactical advantage in not given opposition teams insight into your injuries and potential weaknesses. There is certainly an aspect of integrity and keeping faith with the supporters.
Let's be honest, the chances of Wells playing for us for 3 years without injury is a very long shot. |
The club and Buckley have painted themselves into a corner.....This year has to be the year for some form of success. Bucks has already said it is this year or bust" (regarding finals).
The signing of Wells smacks of desperation for some form of success. I really hope that he is a gun and makes me eat humble pie. He is 31 and aside from last year has had awful run with injuries..... How does that equate to a 3 year contract?
Anyway i hope he proves my fears wrong is all i will say. |
Rubbish! The Pies should be no more or less desperate for success in 2017 than they are any other year. It should always be the number 1 priority.
The recruiting of Wells (currently 31) as a short term replacement for Swanny (currently 32) was a logical move given the age/experience profile of our squad. |
Yes we have missed the finals for several years but at times we have played some excellent football, it amazes me that a vast number of fans dont understand the recruitment of a player like Wells, or even Mayne.
We still lack experience and through experience comes consistency. |
On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years?
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jackcass
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On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years? |
Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
Totals Averages (per game)
2003 Kangaroos 8 18 10 7 149 67 216 64 39 0.6 0.4 8.3 3.7 12.0 3.6 2.2
2004 Kangaroos 8 22 13 8 239 114 353 89 49 0.6 0.4 10.9 5.2 16.0 4.0 2.2
2005 Kangaroos 8 22 12 10 246 148 394 86 43 0.5 0.5 11.2 6.7 17.9 3.9 2.0
2006 Kangaroos 8 22 11 7 227 180 407 81 53 0.5 0.3 10.3 8.2 18.5 3.7 2.4
2007 Kangaroos 8 18 14 18 193 139 332 70 44 0.8 1.0 10.7 7.7 18.4 3.9 2.4
2008 North Melbourne 8 21 6 11 271 173 444 92 59 0.3 0.5 12.9 8.2 21.1 4.4 2.8
2009 North Melbourne 8 7 4 1 94 41 135 30 13 0.6 0.1 13.4 5.9 19.3 4.3 1.9
2010 North Melbourne 8 19 15 11 246 150 396 90 43 0.8 0.6 12.9 7.9 20.8 4.7 2.3
2011 North Melbourne 8 21 17 15 312 180 492 80 80 0.8 0.7 14.9 8.6 23.4 3.8 3.8
2012 North Melbourne 8 20 14 16 290 149 439 72 59 0.7 0.8 14.5 7.5 22.0 3.6 3.0
2013 North Melbourne 8 22 25 10 291 177 468 80 52 1.1 0.5 13.2 8.0 21.3 3.6 2.4
2014 North Melbourne 8 10 4 4 100 87 187 39 25 0.4 0.4 10.0 8.7 18.7 3.9 2.5
2015 North Melbourne 8 2 0 0 6 16 22 1 6 0.0 0.0 3.0 8.0 11.0 0.5 3.0
2016 North Melbourne 8 19 5 5 224 215 439 67 82 0.3 0.3 11.8 11.3 23.1 3.5 4.3
Career 243 150 123 2888 1836 4724 941 647 0.6 0.5 11.9 7.6 19.4 3.9 2.7
Seems pretty durable to me... averaged just north of 17 games a season. I'd be very happy if we can get that many games out of Well each year. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years? |
Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
Totals Averages (per game)
2003 Kangaroos 8 18 10 7 149 67 216 64 39 0.6 0.4 8.3 3.7 12.0 3.6 2.2
2004 Kangaroos 8 22 13 8 239 114 353 89 49 0.6 0.4 10.9 5.2 16.0 4.0 2.2
2005 Kangaroos 8 22 12 10 246 148 394 86 43 0.5 0.5 11.2 6.7 17.9 3.9 2.0
2006 Kangaroos 8 22 11 7 227 180 407 81 53 0.5 0.3 10.3 8.2 18.5 3.7 2.4
2007 Kangaroos 8 18 14 18 193 139 332 70 44 0.8 1.0 10.7 7.7 18.4 3.9 2.4
2008 North Melbourne 8 21 6 11 271 173 444 92 59 0.3 0.5 12.9 8.2 21.1 4.4 2.8
2009 North Melbourne 8 7 4 1 94 41 135 30 13 0.6 0.1 13.4 5.9 19.3 4.3 1.9
2010 North Melbourne 8 19 15 11 246 150 396 90 43 0.8 0.6 12.9 7.9 20.8 4.7 2.3
2011 North Melbourne 8 21 17 15 312 180 492 80 80 0.8 0.7 14.9 8.6 23.4 3.8 3.8
2012 North Melbourne 8 20 14 16 290 149 439 72 59 0.7 0.8 14.5 7.5 22.0 3.6 3.0
2013 North Melbourne 8 22 25 10 291 177 468 80 52 1.1 0.5 13.2 8.0 21.3 3.6 2.4
2014 North Melbourne 8 10 4 4 100 87 187 39 25 0.4 0.4 10.0 8.7 18.7 3.9 2.5
2015 North Melbourne 8 2 0 0 6 16 22 1 6 0.0 0.0 3.0 8.0 11.0 0.5 3.0
2016 North Melbourne 8 19 5 5 224 215 439 67 82 0.3 0.3 11.8 11.3 23.1 3.5 4.3
Career 243 150 123 2888 1836 4724 941 647 0.6 0.5 11.9 7.6 19.4 3.9 2.7
Seems pretty durable to me... averaged just north of 17 games a season. I'd be very happy if we can get that many games out of Well each year. |
Damn these pure facts getting in the way of all those silly bloody sallies who put shit on Collingwood.......  
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matrix10
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| jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years? |
Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
Totals Averages (per game)
2003 Kangaroos 8 18 10 7 149 67 216 64 39 0.6 0.4 8.3 3.7 12.0 3.6 2.2
2004 Kangaroos 8 22 13 8 239 114 353 89 49 0.6 0.4 10.9 5.2 16.0 4.0 2.2
2005 Kangaroos 8 22 12 10 246 148 394 86 43 0.5 0.5 11.2 6.7 17.9 3.9 2.0
2006 Kangaroos 8 22 11 7 227 180 407 81 53 0.5 0.3 10.3 8.2 18.5 3.7 2.4
2007 Kangaroos 8 18 14 18 193 139 332 70 44 0.8 1.0 10.7 7.7 18.4 3.9 2.4
2008 North Melbourne 8 21 6 11 271 173 444 92 59 0.3 0.5 12.9 8.2 21.1 4.4 2.8
2009 North Melbourne 8 7 4 1 94 41 135 30 13 0.6 0.1 13.4 5.9 19.3 4.3 1.9
2010 North Melbourne 8 19 15 11 246 150 396 90 43 0.8 0.6 12.9 7.9 20.8 4.7 2.3
2011 North Melbourne 8 21 17 15 312 180 492 80 80 0.8 0.7 14.9 8.6 23.4 3.8 3.8
2012 North Melbourne 8 20 14 16 290 149 439 72 59 0.7 0.8 14.5 7.5 22.0 3.6 3.0
2013 North Melbourne 8 22 25 10 291 177 468 80 52 1.1 0.5 13.2 8.0 21.3 3.6 2.4
2014 North Melbourne 8 10 4 4 100 87 187 39 25 0.4 0.4 10.0 8.7 18.7 3.9 2.5
2015 North Melbourne 8 2 0 0 6 16 22 1 6 0.0 0.0 3.0 8.0 11.0 0.5 3.0
2016 North Melbourne 8 19 5 5 224 215 439 67 82 0.3 0.3 11.8 11.3 23.1 3.5 4.3
Career 243 150 123 2888 1836 4724 941 647 0.6 0.5 11.9 7.6 19.4 3.9 2.7
Seems pretty durable to me... averaged just north of 17 games a season. I'd be very happy if we can get that many games out of Well each year. |
looking at the past 3 years the average is approx. 13
I would be happy is he plays 15 games a year for 3 years.
Anything less and we have lost on this deal |
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Pies4shaw 
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| It's just over 10 isn't it? 31 games over the last 3 seasons? |
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derkd
Joined: 29 May 2013
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| Lazza wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years? |
Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
Totals Averages (per game)
2003 Kangaroos 8 18 10 7 149 67 216 64 39 0.6 0.4 8.3 3.7 12.0 3.6 2.2
2004 Kangaroos 8 22 13 8 239 114 353 89 49 0.6 0.4 10.9 5.2 16.0 4.0 2.2
2005 Kangaroos 8 22 12 10 246 148 394 86 43 0.5 0.5 11.2 6.7 17.9 3.9 2.0
2006 Kangaroos 8 22 11 7 227 180 407 81 53 0.5 0.3 10.3 8.2 18.5 3.7 2.4
2007 Kangaroos 8 18 14 18 193 139 332 70 44 0.8 1.0 10.7 7.7 18.4 3.9 2.4
2008 North Melbourne 8 21 6 11 271 173 444 92 59 0.3 0.5 12.9 8.2 21.1 4.4 2.8
2009 North Melbourne 8 7 4 1 94 41 135 30 13 0.6 0.1 13.4 5.9 19.3 4.3 1.9
2010 North Melbourne 8 19 15 11 246 150 396 90 43 0.8 0.6 12.9 7.9 20.8 4.7 2.3
2011 North Melbourne 8 21 17 15 312 180 492 80 80 0.8 0.7 14.9 8.6 23.4 3.8 3.8
2012 North Melbourne 8 20 14 16 290 149 439 72 59 0.7 0.8 14.5 7.5 22.0 3.6 3.0
2013 North Melbourne 8 22 25 10 291 177 468 80 52 1.1 0.5 13.2 8.0 21.3 3.6 2.4
2014 North Melbourne 8 10 4 4 100 87 187 39 25 0.4 0.4 10.0 8.7 18.7 3.9 2.5
2015 North Melbourne 8 2 0 0 6 16 22 1 6 0.0 0.0 3.0 8.0 11.0 0.5 3.0
2016 North Melbourne 8 19 5 5 224 215 439 67 82 0.3 0.3 11.8 11.3 23.1 3.5 4.3
Career 243 150 123 2888 1836 4724 941 647 0.6 0.5 11.9 7.6 19.4 3.9 2.7
Seems pretty durable to me... averaged just north of 17 games a season. I'd be very happy if we can get that many games out of Well each year. |
Damn these pure facts getting in the way of all those silly bloody sallies who put shit on Collingwood....... |
His early years were solid, I will concede I was not aware that 2011/2012/2013 were as constant as they were. My main thesis is still valid namely that length of his contract and his age and value per year.
Like I say Lazza i am not here to simply be a nay sayer. I hope i am proven wrong.
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"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
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| jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years? |
Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
Totals Averages (per game)
2003 Kangaroos 8 18 10 7 149 67 216 64 39 0.6 0.4 8.3 3.7 12.0 3.6 2.2
2004 Kangaroos 8 22 13 8 239 114 353 89 49 0.6 0.4 10.9 5.2 16.0 4.0 2.2
2005 Kangaroos 8 22 12 10 246 148 394 86 43 0.5 0.5 11.2 6.7 17.9 3.9 2.0
2006 Kangaroos 8 22 11 7 227 180 407 81 53 0.5 0.3 10.3 8.2 18.5 3.7 2.4
2007 Kangaroos 8 18 14 18 193 139 332 70 44 0.8 1.0 10.7 7.7 18.4 3.9 2.4
2008 North Melbourne 8 21 6 11 271 173 444 92 59 0.3 0.5 12.9 8.2 21.1 4.4 2.8
2009 North Melbourne 8 7 4 1 94 41 135 30 13 0.6 0.1 13.4 5.9 19.3 4.3 1.9
2010 North Melbourne 8 19 15 11 246 150 396 90 43 0.8 0.6 12.9 7.9 20.8 4.7 2.3
2011 North Melbourne 8 21 17 15 312 180 492 80 80 0.8 0.7 14.9 8.6 23.4 3.8 3.8
2012 North Melbourne 8 20 14 16 290 149 439 72 59 0.7 0.8 14.5 7.5 22.0 3.6 3.0
2013 North Melbourne 8 22 25 10 291 177 468 80 52 1.1 0.5 13.2 8.0 21.3 3.6 2.4
2014 North Melbourne 8 10 4 4 100 87 187 39 25 0.4 0.4 10.0 8.7 18.7 3.9 2.5
2015 North Melbourne 8 2 0 0 6 16 22 1 6 0.0 0.0 3.0 8.0 11.0 0.5 3.0
2016 North Melbourne 8 19 5 5 224 215 439 67 82 0.3 0.3 11.8 11.3 23.1 3.5 4.3
Career 243 150 123 2888 1836 4724 941 647 0.6 0.5 11.9 7.6 19.4 3.9 2.7
Seems pretty durable to me... averaged just north of 17 games a season. I'd be very happy if we can get that many games out of Well each year. |
Over the last three years he has played only 31 games but you would have to think that 2015 was an exception.
His record over his career speaks for itself and we do need experience.
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jackcass
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Location: Bendigo
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| matrix10 wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
On the contrary, I can understand Mayne (I may not agree) But i understand and accept that at 27 and playing the half forward role that he does he provides both leadership and is in a age bracket that suits the club. He also is fit and at his best COULD be a worthy addition. Wells is 31....at his best i do not deny he is brilliant... My arugment is that he has an awful track record with injury and probably would not be at the club for our next premership run...how does the club explain $3million over 3 years? |
Season Team # Games G B K H D M T G B K H D M T
Totals Averages (per game)
2003 Kangaroos 8 18 10 7 149 67 216 64 39 0.6 0.4 8.3 3.7 12.0 3.6 2.2
2004 Kangaroos 8 22 13 8 239 114 353 89 49 0.6 0.4 10.9 5.2 16.0 4.0 2.2
2005 Kangaroos 8 22 12 10 246 148 394 86 43 0.5 0.5 11.2 6.7 17.9 3.9 2.0
2006 Kangaroos 8 22 11 7 227 180 407 81 53 0.5 0.3 10.3 8.2 18.5 3.7 2.4
2007 Kangaroos 8 18 14 18 193 139 332 70 44 0.8 1.0 10.7 7.7 18.4 3.9 2.4
2008 North Melbourne 8 21 6 11 271 173 444 92 59 0.3 0.5 12.9 8.2 21.1 4.4 2.8
2009 North Melbourne 8 7 4 1 94 41 135 30 13 0.6 0.1 13.4 5.9 19.3 4.3 1.9
2010 North Melbourne 8 19 15 11 246 150 396 90 43 0.8 0.6 12.9 7.9 20.8 4.7 2.3
2011 North Melbourne 8 21 17 15 312 180 492 80 80 0.8 0.7 14.9 8.6 23.4 3.8 3.8
2012 North Melbourne 8 20 14 16 290 149 439 72 59 0.7 0.8 14.5 7.5 22.0 3.6 3.0
2013 North Melbourne 8 22 25 10 291 177 468 80 52 1.1 0.5 13.2 8.0 21.3 3.6 2.4
2014 North Melbourne 8 10 4 4 100 87 187 39 25 0.4 0.4 10.0 8.7 18.7 3.9 2.5
2015 North Melbourne 8 2 0 0 6 16 22 1 6 0.0 0.0 3.0 8.0 11.0 0.5 3.0
2016 North Melbourne 8 19 5 5 224 215 439 67 82 0.3 0.3 11.8 11.3 23.1 3.5 4.3
Career 243 150 123 2888 1836 4724 941 647 0.6 0.5 11.9 7.6 19.4 3.9 2.7
Seems pretty durable to me... averaged just north of 17 games a season. I'd be very happy if we can get that many games out of Well each year. |
looking at the past 3 years the average is approx. 13
I would be happy is he plays 15 games a year for 3 years.
Anything less and we have lost on this deal |
And if we look purely at 2015 it's 2. He had a significant injury in 2014, suffered re-occurrences in 2015, 2016 seems to show that he's over them.
I'm not trying to predict how many games he'll play in each of the next 3 seasons, just stating that if we get 15 a year out of him I'll be thrilled. If he ends up like Clinton Young (21 games in 3 seasons) then I think we've broken even as he still brings a lot to a young playing group over and above his playing performances. |
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The question could also be asked of those who shit can his selection "if not Wells then who?" Who would you have taken instead? How would you have spent the money? Who else put their hand up to come to the pies?
From what i understood, from the pool of unrestricted free agents willing to come to Collingwood- he was the best. In fact many would have argued that an injury free Wells was the best free agent being shopped around period for any club.
Who cares what we pay him. The money is irrelevant. There are so many loop holes, trigger clauses and front loading of contracts that it is neither here nor there. The only relevance the money has is that it got us a player who when fit is very very good and would start in most if not all clubs starting 22.
As far as it "smacking of desperation" ..... well it did that too. Because we were desperate for experience. And that is something else our money bought....
A silky, talented, and above all experienced player.
Why wouldn't you recruit him? Just because he might get injured? If that is the case then who else would you have taken? And remember its a two way street with UFA- your selection needs to have wanted to come to us too!
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| September Zeros wrote: | The question could also be asked of those who shit can his selection "if not Wells then who?" Who would you have taken instead? How would you have spent the money? Who else put their hand up to come to the pies?
From what i understood, from the pool of unrestricted free agents willing to come to Collingwood- he was the best. In fact many would have argued that an injury free Wells was the best free agent being shopped around period for any club.
Who cares what we pay him. The money is irrelevant. There are so many loop holes, trigger clauses and front loading of contracts that it is neither here nor there. The only relevance the money has is that it got us a player who when fit is very very good and would start in most if not all clubs starting 22.
As far as it "smacking of desperation" ..... well it did that too. Because we were desperate for experience. And that is something else our money bought....
A silky, talented, and above all experienced player.
Why wouldn't you recruit him? Just because he might get injured? If that is the case then who else would you have taken? And remember its a two way street with UFA- your selection needs to have wanted to come to us too! |
Brilliant piece of common sense and a weighing up of the entire scenario. Love it!
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| September Zeros wrote: | The question could also be asked of those who shit can his selection "if not Wells then who?" Who would you have taken instead? How would you have spent the money? Who else put their hand up to come to the pies?
From what i understood, from the pool of unrestricted free agents willing to come to Collingwood- he was the best. In fact many would have argued that an injury free Wells was the best free agent being shopped around period for any club.
Who cares what we pay him. The money is irrelevant. There are so many loop holes, trigger clauses and front loading of contracts that it is neither here nor there. The only relevance the money has is that it got us a player who when fit is very very good and would start in most if not all clubs starting 22.
As far as it "smacking of desperation" ..... well it did that too. Because we were desperate for experience. And that is something else our money bought....
A silky, talented, and above all experienced player.
Why wouldn't you recruit him? Just because he might get injured? If that is the case then who else would you have taken? And remember its a two way street with UFA- your selection needs to have wanted to come to us too! |
Jordan Lewis would've been alright.
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| Invigoration wrote: | | September Zeros wrote: | The question could also be asked of those who shit can his selection "if not Wells then who?" Who would you have taken instead? How would you have spent the money? Who else put their hand up to come to the pies?
From what i understood, from the pool of unrestricted free agents willing to come to Collingwood- he was the best. In fact many would have argued that an injury free Wells was the best free agent being shopped around period for any club.
Who cares what we pay him. The money is irrelevant. There are so many loop holes, trigger clauses and front loading of contracts that it is neither here nor there. The only relevance the money has is that it got us a player who when fit is very very good and would start in most if not all clubs starting 22.
As far as it "smacking of desperation" ..... well it did that too. Because we were desperate for experience. And that is something else our money bought....
A silky, talented, and above all experienced player.
Why wouldn't you recruit him? Just because he might get injured? If that is the case then who else would you have taken? And remember its a two way street with UFA- your selection needs to have wanted to come to us too! |
Jordan Lewis would've been alright. |
Wells is twice the player Jordan Lewis is imo. We've been in desperate need of some outside silk to deliver the ball to our forwards, and Wells will do that. |
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themonk
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| September Zeros wrote: | The question could also be asked of those who shit can his selection "if not Wells then who?" Who would you have taken instead? How would you have spent the money? Who else put their hand up to come to the pies?
From what i understood, from the pool of unrestricted free agents willing to come to Collingwood- he was the best. In fact many would have argued that an injury free Wells was the best free agent being shopped around period for any club.
Who cares what we pay him. The money is irrelevant. There are so many loop holes, trigger clauses and front loading of contracts that it is neither here nor there. The only relevance the money has is that it got us a player who when fit is very very good and would start in most if not all clubs starting 22.
As far as it "smacking of desperation" ..... well it did that too. Because we were desperate for experience. And that is something else our money bought....
A silky, talented, and above all experienced player.
Why wouldn't you recruit him? Just because he might get injured? If that is the case then who else would you have taken? And remember its a two way street with UFA- your selection needs to have wanted to come to us too! |
Logic on nick's, great post |
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