Best 22

[Number 35]

I really like the fact that we are not even considered a darkhorse. Watching Collingwood for the last 30 years, when we are without injury we produce our best football with the 'underdog' tag on. I think bucks soldiers are ready to take scalps and suprise many pundits. Funny on SEN the other night Finey said he could see Collingwood in the top 4. The other 2 morons picked us bottom 4. Finey picked us for a flag last year as well. So did I. An inform Cloke Swan Elliot would have been responsible for a further 100 goals which we missed dearly. If you have a football IQ then their is no denying the talent we possess is probaly 2nd to GWS........................ An Nobody picking Jet Thomas in the team? Fock Me Keefy gets a shoutout? I guess we'll have to wait until Jet racks 35 touches and 3 goals again until people take notice of that kid with the shoulders

[Albert Parker]

^Some questions

So does picking us for a flag last season, when we finished 12th, suggest that someone has particular 'football IQ'?

If we have 2nd ranked talent, but finish the season in such a low position, suggest that we have the best people in place to harness that talent?

If our people managing things are largely unchanged, does it suggest that the results should change that much?

I think we produced our best on-field results in 2011, save a grand final loss. Were we considered underdogs that year, having won the premiership the previous season?

If Josh Thomas was largely considered a fringe player and remains on our rookie list at present, when Smith & Keefe have all been elevated ahead of him, does it suggest that most, including the coaching panel, think he is in our best 22?

Ex GWS, which would appear to have an unsurpassed level of talent, is our list better than Sydney's talent? Dogs talent? Even Gold Coast have a ton of highly touted draft picks including 4 of the top 10 this year alone plus Ablett, Lynch, Thompson, Swallow, Jack Martin, Wright etc etc.

Yet, like you, somehow I still maintain some optimism that our team can at least make finals in 2017. My concerns lie in our key position depth and coaching capabilities though.

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[mudlark]

[Piethagoras' Theorem]

I get stuck at around 21 and 22 as I don't consider any talls beyond Grundy and Moore as worthy. If all midfielders and medium/talls are available, some decent players are gonna miss out. If we're going strictly best 22 it'll probably be a little on the short side

[The Average Tourist]

The hardest part I see is the backline and I have included the Sack because I refuse to think that Dunn can do a job at AFL level, big Keefey has been out too long and was only developing, and our new number 35 is really two years away, but what have we lost from 2016 or 2015. So here goes

Sack Howe Maynard
Ramsay / Scharenberg Reid Adams
Wells Pendles Sidey
Aish Moore Broomhead
Elliott Cox Fasolo

Grundy Treloar Greenwood

Degoey Varcoe Wills Crisp

Apology to WHE, Smith, Sinclair and Phillips

Hopefully either the Berg or Ramsay are able to fill one flank.

Not sure who takes the Monster Forward

[HAL]

Oh there.

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With respect to all of the posters who failed to include these players, but there is zero chance Collingwood shelled out all of that coin on the 4 FA's to have them play in the twos.

So you just gotta understand that all 4 of Dunn, Hoskin-Elliot, Wells and Mayne are in our best 22 unless and until they prove they are not. I also feel pretty strongly that Howe has also proven himself to be a best 22 type.

I also cant imagine any scenario at all where Aish, Grundy, Moore, De Goey, Reid, Adams, Treloar, Pendles and Sidey are automatic selections in our 22 from this year on. They are our 9 potential stars.

Now that's 14.

The remaining 8 players we can debate.

There has to be at least one more big in the forward line. Seems like that is out of White and Cox. for me, White showed enough.

I'd add two more small forwards and have to think that they are spots being held for Faz and Elliot. There are many others that can step in if these two arent right (including the likes of Goldsack, Crocker, Broomhead, Blair and others).

I think you add two more mids and here its a collection of guys like varcoe, Crisp, Greenwood, Wills, many other young guys.

Finally, you need three more backs. I think long term, they would think Ramsey, Langdon and scharenberg fill the need, although they would also like Maynard, Smith, Sinclair and tonnes of others to step up in the meantime.

That's how i end up with my starting 22 (automatic 22 in bold):

Ramsey, Dunn, Howe
Langdon, Reid, Scharenberg
Sidey, Adams, Aish
Wells, White, Hoskin-Elliot
Faz, Moore, Mayne

Grundy, Pendles, Treloar

Elliot, Greenwood, Crisp, Varcoe.

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[RudeBoy]

I'm not sure how many Dees games some of you guys have seen, but from what I've seen, Dunn is a very, very ordinary player. He would not be in my best 22. I'm hoping he was recruited as insurance against an injury to Reid or failure of Keeffe.

[Pies4shaw]

He's just cover in case Walsh can't play FB.

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[RudeBoy]

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[cityslick1]

Josh Smith came 7th? in the B&F off 17 or so games... is one of the fittest at the club, and was used by Bucks as an example of the perfect player to coach. He's a monty for Bucks' best 22 imo