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inxs88 



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:06 pm
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Ok, so with 2 week to go it seems we have some facts that denote where we stand in terms of finalising our 2016 list positions. With draft selections:

Picks: 28, 44, 51, 62, 65, 83, 101, 119

Current state of play:

* We delisted 10 primary listed players
* Left us with 29 players
* upgraded 2 including: J Smith & L Keefe
* Added 4 recruits Wells, Dunn, Mayne & Hoskin Elliott

Summary:

* leaves us with 35 Primary listed players
* 1 Rookie player in J Thomas
* 1 Category B in M Cox

Father Sons:

* + 2 likely in J Daicos & C Brown likely added
* likely to cost us selections 44,51,62 & 83

Draft Night?


* Likely to use 28: Best tall defender type (eg. Ridley, Cox, Rotham)
* Pick 65 best player available

Summary:

Shall leave us with a list of 39 players which seems to be Hine's preferred number going on past seasons. Allows the flexibility to upgrade Mason Cox for round 1 of the season.

Outlier:

The most interesting thing may be the continued "non-signing of Blair". He is the only free agent yet to secure a signature on any AFL primary list. May be Hine and the Pies despite an offer to him are keeping their options open as they have done between 2013-2015 when we secured Marsh, Langdon, Crocker etc...

With the draft being strong and running deep, there may be a fallen gem that Hine likes better than Blair. Hoping so!

Rookie Draft:

* With J Thomas as our only retained rookie, expect Hine to select 4 players here. If history serves as a precursor expect to see players from Redland in QAFL and Oakleigh Chargers that fall out of the main draft as likely targets.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:59 pm
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Thanks for that summary mate. Good stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:18 pm
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Thanks. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out and how close you are to what transpires.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:16 pm
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Member 7167 wrote:
Thanks. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out and how close you are to what transpires.


Yeah strong draft this year and it's a pity we couldn't "trade up into the top 20" with both Frost and Witts going to clubs with lots of picks. We got pick pocketed here!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:56 pm
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inxs88 wrote:


Father Sons:

* + 2 likely in J Daicos & C Brown likely added
* likely to cost us selections 44,51,62 & 83

Draft Night?


* Likely to use 28: Best tall defender type (eg. Ridley, Cox, Rotham)
* Pick 65 best player available.


We will not use pick 83 for Brown or Daicos, no points associated to it, we will more than likely have to use pick 65.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:57 pm
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themonk wrote:
inxs88 wrote:


Father Sons:

* + 2 likely in J Daicos & C Brown likely added
* likely to cost us selections 44,51,62 & 83

Draft Night?


* Likely to use 28: Best tall defender type (eg. Ridley, Cox, Rotham)
* Pick 65 best player available.


We will not use pick 83 for Brown or Daicos, no points associated to it, we will more than likely have to use pick 65.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:45 pm
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Do we have to upgrade Mason Cox or can we just play him

I thought the normal Rookies could only be upgraded on the back of a long term injury but the Cat B could play? without an injury!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:42 pm
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It's a moving beast at the moment with mooted changes to the whole Primary:Rookie list structure. Traditionally my understanding is that if a team runs with 39 Primary list players and not the traditional 40, a club can upgrade any Rookie be it a Category A or B Rookie before Round 1.

Hine has leant towards this list management strategy the last couple of years as opposed to being stuck with 40 and having no flexibility come eachMarch if we incur injuries pre-season.

From a fantasy football perspective it would be great just to have 44 players to allocate accordingly anytime! Hope this explanation helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:37 pm
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A great summation and analysis there inxs88. Much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:21 pm
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RudeBoy wrote:
A great summation and analysis there inxs88. Much appreciated.


Not problems and nice to see some manners on here Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:57 pm
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inxs88 wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:
A great summation and analysis there inxs88. Much appreciated.


Not problems and nice to see some manners on here Smile


Particularly from a Rude Boy!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:39 pm
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If we draft 3 "fresh" non father/sons on Friday night it means somebodies getting delisted!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:54 pm
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Hey inx88 - I believe the AFL have changed the rules this year so that late picks where no primary list spot exists are deleted pre-draft and cannot be used for matching bids. The updated "Final Order of Selection" I have from the AFL shows us having picks 28 (677 DVI points), 44 (362 DVI points), 51 (259 DVI points), 61 (135 DVI points) and 64 (101 DVI points).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:20 pm
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MightyMagpie wrote:
Hey inx88 - I believe the AFL have changed the rules this year so that late picks where no primary list spot exists are deleted pre-draft and cannot be used for matching bids. The updated "Final Order of Selection" I have from the AFL shows us having picks 28 (677 DVI points), 44 (362 DVI points), 51 (259 DVI points), 61 (135 DVI points) and 64 (101 DVI points).


Wouldn't we be using 83 and 101 to elevate Smith and Keeffe to our list?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:27 pm
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Dr Pie wrote:
MightyMagpie wrote:
Hey inx88 - I believe the AFL have changed the rules this year so that late picks where no primary list spot exists are deleted pre-draft and cannot be used for matching bids. The updated "Final Order of Selection" I have from the AFL shows us having picks 28 (677 DVI points), 44 (362 DVI points), 51 (259 DVI points), 61 (135 DVI points) and 64 (101 DVI points).


Wouldn't we be using 83 and 101 to elevate Smith and Keeffe to our list?


Not 100% sure but I think I heard they do that automatically now and not as part of the draft. That would make sense given the final draft order.

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