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When will it be legal here?
Within 2 years
20%
 20%  [ 3 ]
2-5 years
13%
 13%  [ 2 ]
6-10 years
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
11-20 years
26%
 26%  [ 4 ]
It'll never happen
33%
 33%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:23 pm
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It should just be legalized... what a joke.


It's a herb and way more beneficial than some of the bullshit meds sold over the counter.
It's a National disgrace and I just hope there's a government with some balls that sorts out this bullshit law soon.

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‘A dangerous drug’: Surgeon general warns against marijuana use by pregnant women, youths

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/29/dangerous-drug-surgeon-general-warns-against-marijuana-use-by-pregnant-women-youth/

"Azar also put his weight behind efforts to increase marijuana research — which is limited by the fact that there’s only a single institution, a facility at the University of Mississippi, where it can be cultivated for scientific use because of the plant’s status as a Schedule 1 controlled substance under federal law. Azar said that the work should look at both the risks and the potential benefits of marijuana use, and that he had “very constructive” conversations with the Justice Department and the Drug Enforcement Administration about how to do this.
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U.S. health officials said they have been especially alarmed because the potency of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the new professionally grown strains of the marijuana plant is much higher than it was in the past. In 1995, when marijuana was mostly smoked, the amount was about 4 percent, they said. It’s now 12 percent to 25 percent. Marijuana is also now available in even more-concentrated forms — including cookies and oils — where the concentration can be as high as 80 or 90 percent.

“This isn’t your mother’s marijuana,” Adams stated at the news conference announcing the initiative."
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:03 pm
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I agree 100%. The potency is way too high in some strains.
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I agree 100%. The potency is way too high in some strains.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:25 pm
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skids how do you smoke your weed
do you roll joints, make blunts / mix tobacco
or smoke from pipe or bong
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:34 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/30/the-war-on-drugs-making-good-dogs-do-bad-things
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:05 pm
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Woods Of Ypres wrote:
skids how do you smoke your weed
do you roll joints, make blunts / mix tobacco
or smoke from pipe or bong


Mainly roll a joint these days. No spin (tobacco).

Sometimes a bong (if it's a potent bit) and a bucket bong if I'm down at the shack with my old mate Scanners, it's the only way he smokes.

I've used a vape, that was ok. Rice in the bong instead of water.

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Was Marijuana Really Less Potent in the 1960s?

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/was-marijuana-really-less-potent-in-the-1960s/387010/

Mar 6, 2015

"The idea that pot is getting stronger—much stronger than the stuff that got passed around at Woodstock, for instance—is treated like conventional wisdom these days. Maybe it shouldn't be.

"It's fair to be skeptical," said Michael Kahn, the president of Massachusetts Cannabis Research, a marijuana testing and research lab in New England. "Back then the predominant method for quantitation was gas chromatography, which is not quite appropriate for cannabinoid quantitation. This is because [it] heats up the test material before analysis, which also alters the chemical profile—including breaking down the THC molecule."

Kahn's lab uses a technique called liquid chromatography instead. Another potency tester, Denver-based CannLabs, uses a similar method. "Depending on what the sample is—flower, hash oil, hundreds of edibles ranging from ice cream to pasta sauce to seeds—you use different solvents to do the extraction," said Gennifer Murray, the CEO of CannLabs. "You mix it with a special solvent, basically shake it around, centrifuge it, and then it goes onto the instrument... That's the liquid chromatograph."

The federal government has been testing marijuana potency for more than 40 years, and has long acknowledged the limitations to its methodologies. Along with some of the issues with gas chromatography—which it was still using at least as recently as 2008—the National Institute on Drug Abuse potency testing has always depended on what researchers have been able to get their hands on.
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More recently, researchers found a THC concentration that "gradually increase[d]" from 1993 to 2008, according to a 2010 paper in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. And despite testing limitations, researchers have always maintained potency is likely trending upward. But they've also always been upfront about the limitations to their findings...
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Even without knowing reliably what potency was like in the 1960s and 1970s, it's reasonable to guess it will increase, says Kahn, of Massachusetts Cannabis Research. "I think the mega-potent strains may soon represent the norm, if not already—the market selects for potency." But with customers clamoring for the strong stuff, there's also a question of whether manufacturers are labeling accurately."





[This is one of the pics in the article. Why does it look different??]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:31 pm
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I can guarantee you, the pot available today is far more potent than what was around in the 80's & 90's.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:56 pm
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Is today’s cannabis much higher in potency than 25 years ago?

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/is-todays-cannabis-much-higher-in-potency-than-25-years-ago/

Sep 25, 2018

'... Page is also the president and CEO of Vancouver-based Anandia, a company specializing in cannabis genetics and lab testing for quality control purposes; he was part of the Canadian team of scientists who were first to publish the cannabis genome sequence.

... “Growing high-potency cannabis is a standard thing now,” says Page. “But it doesn’t mean that 40 years ago people couldn’t find really high-potency cannabis. If you went to India, some places would have really potent stuff. An old hippie guy I met in California went to Pakistan in 1971 and purchased seeds that are the source of the cannabis he still grows.”
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Page and his colleagues at Anandia crunched the numbers from Canada’s Access to Cannabis for Medical Purposes Regulations program and found today’s average THC potency (milligrams of THC per gram of cannabis) to be between 15 and 17 per cent, which Page says is quite strong.

According to High Times magazine, in 2017, California’s Godfather OG strain was evaluated as boasting a record-breaking 34 per cent THC level. By comparison, American studies have determined that, in 1995, average potency hovered around four per cent.

Page doesn’t have much faith in those figures. “I don’t really believe the over-30 numbers,” he says. “I question either the lab or people putting other cannabinoids in the product to make it stronger. The maximum I buy into is 28 per cent. The thing about the numbers [in the American studies] is that they’re based on drug seizure analyses that the cops put into the labs. And maybe it was poor quality because people would buy anything in those days. So it skewed to these lower potency numbers. It’s like comparing apples and oranges.” '
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:46 pm
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Talking to Dad on the blower today, as you do on Fathers Day when you're away and can't have a beer with the old bastard.

Amongst other things he told me how Mum starts on cannabis capsules next week. She's had this undiagnosed (correctly)/ unexplained condition for over 10 years and this is an option she hasn't tried yet.

In a nutshell, she has this 'blistering' in the roof of her mouth which then bursts and leaves holes. Very painful and been driving her and the old man crazy.
She's seen more specialists and scientists and dentists and any other 'expert's they could find since 2006. All had theories and different remedies, but none have even helped, let alone worked. I tried her to hit up the Docs for the cannabis years ago.... she finally listened.

Dad said the paperwork they have to complete, to get the script is ridiculous. But they've pushed on with it and she should be starting treatment this week.
I'm guna buy her some Tim Tams when I get home, a box of the fckrs.

Stay tuned!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:05 am
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Capsules? That's different. Let's hope it helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:45 pm
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The oil comes in capsules, similar to fish oil.
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Aha. Makes sense. I wonder if that means they can go rancid.
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Mythbusters: Cannabis potency

https://www.drugfoundation.org.nz/matters-of-substance/november-2010/cannabis-potency/

NZ Drug Foundation, Matters of Substance - Nov 2010, Volume 20, Issue No.4

"At first glance, claims of increasing cannabis potency appear to have been confirmed by the recent ESR study, with THC potencies of up to 30 percent compared to levels ranging between 1.3 and 9.7 percent in a study by the same institute in 1996.

The 1996 study measured the THC content of cannabis plants seized by Police from illegal growers and found its potency had been largely stable between 1976 and 1996. Those seizures consisted of a mixture of mainly outdoor grown and imported cannabis and only small numbers of indoor grown plants, as the method of hydroponic indoor cultivation was in its infancy at that time. And this is where claims of greatly increased cannabis potency start to look a little shaky or at least somewhat exaggerated.
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A better test of changes in THC potency over time would be to continue testing illegally grown cannabis material seized by Police. According to the authors of the 2010 ESR study, this kind of testing is currently underway, and preliminary results show an average THC content of 10.9 percent. This does indicate a slight increase in potency since 1996, where the highest THC measurement was 9.7 percent and most of the samples tested were between 1 and 5 percent THC.
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The extraordinarily high potency figure of 30 percent reported in the 2010 ESR study was achieved for only one sample, from one plant, from one grow cycle in the entire study. In fact, the average THC content for each plant tended to hover around 7 or 8 percent, which is comparable to THC levels reported for cannabis across Europe.

The overwhelming finding from ESR’s experimental cannabis harvest was the extreme variation in potency, not just between plants, but even between samples taken from the same plant. ...

A report on cannabis potency in European countries by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction in 2002 stated that the natural variation in cannabis THC levels found at any given time is likely to “far exceed” any changes observed over time."
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