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jackcass 
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| E wrote: | | BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | Personally I would pass on Dal Santo because he would hold up the development of players like Maynard, Langdon and Phillips. Some of the other free agents available though, appeal to me, especially Salvagni and Henderson. Question is can we fit them onto our list and do they fall within our salary cap limit. |
why shouldnt Maynard, Langdon Phillips be required to prove they are better options than an aging Del Santo. I'ver never understood this line of argument.
Buckley dropped both White and Fasolo until they could prove they were worthy of a spot in the team. Both improved their approach to the game following those periods of time in the twos.
Remember, we won a flag a few years ago by requiring our young players to prove they were better than Lockyer, Fraser and O'Bree. i believe this is healthy and an essential part of player development vs gifting them games without merit in the hopes that this will just naturally lead to their improvement. |
I agree in principle but for mine there isn't that much if anything between Del Santo and players like Maynard and Langdon as HB options which appears to what we're talking here. Phillips is still a tad down the pecking order and seems better suited HF/wing anyway. So if we've already got 2 players who can at this stage in their respective development at least match Del Santo, who are younger with greater ceilings, why recruit him. |
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MJ23
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Carlton has delisted a few including Dillon Viojo-Rainbow. He was fairly highly rated as a junior, does anyone know what happened to him ?
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watt price tully 
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| MJ23 wrote: | | Carlton has delisted a few including Dillon Viojo-Rainbow. He was fairly highly rated as a junior, does anyone know what happened to him ? |
Got wrapped as an Arnott's biscuit in a family all-sorts value pack.
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| watt price tully wrote: | | MJ23 wrote: | | Carlton has delisted a few including Dillon Viojo-Rainbow. He was fairly highly rated as a junior, does anyone know what happened to him ? |
Got wrapped as an Arnott's biscuit in a family all-sorts value pack. |
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AN_Inkling
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| E wrote: | | BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | Personally I would pass on Dal Santo because he would hold up the development of players like Maynard, Langdon and Phillips. Some of the other free agents available though, appeal to me, especially Salvagni and Henderson. Question is can we fit them onto our list and do they fall within our salary cap limit. |
why shouldnt Maynard, Langdon Phillips be required to prove they are better options than an aging Del Santo. I'ver never understood this line of argument.
Buckley dropped both White and Fasolo until they could prove they were worthy of a spot in the team. Both improved their approach to the game following those periods of time in the twos.
Remember, we won a flag a few years ago by requiring our young players to prove they were better than Lockyer, Fraser and O'Bree. i believe this is healthy and an essential part of player development vs gifting them games without merit in the hopes that this will just naturally lead to their improvement. |
Agree. If Dal Santo can provide some value, there's no reason not to look at him. We still have less players over 30 than any other club, so this argument that all of these old blokes are going to stop the young players developing doesn't wash.
We'll be a better team when we are not forced to continually play young players who aren't yet up to it. Have played too many of them the past few years.
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courtza
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| I cant believe we got Mayne for 4 on good pay when we could have got Barlow who is the same age and a better player for nothing. |
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September Zeros
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| courtza wrote: | | I cant believe we got Mayne for 4 on good pay when we could have got Barlow who is the same age and a better player for nothing. |
It's a positional decision
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69 years a MAGPIE 
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The delistings are starting to mount and there are a few interesting names there. Richards maybe, is he worth a punt? Henderson? Any other thoughts.
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Presti35 
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Updated (Fri 28th October)
REMAINING UNSIGNED FREE AGENTS:
(Not officially delisted or re-signed by their club yet)
Adelaide
Ricky Henderson (Expected to move to a Vic club)
Collingwood
Jarryd Blair
Fremantle
Zac Clarke (Expected to remain with Freo)
Geelong
Tom Lonergan (Expected to play another season with the Cats)
St Kilda
Sam Fisher (Was tipped to retire, but might go one more)
West Coast
Mitch Brown (Expected to move to a Vic club)
Sam Butler
DE-LISTED FREE AGENTS:
Adelaide:
Luke Lowden (del)
Keenan Ramsey (del)
Brisbane:
Hugh Beasley (del)
Billy Evans (del)
Josh Green (del) (Linked to Essendon)
Josh McGuinness (del)
Jackson Paine (del)
Josh Watts (del)
Carlton:
Matthew Dick (del)
Andrejs Everitt (del)
Jayden Foster (del)
Andrew Gallucci (del)
Billy Gowers (del)
Clem Smith (del)
Jason Tutt (del)
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow (del)
Mark Whiley (del)
Collingwood:
Tim Golds (del)
Matthew Goodyear (del)
Darrean Wyatt (del)
Essendon:
Jason Ashby (del)
Ryan Crowley (del)
Matt Dea (del) (Top-Up player. Expected to be offered a new Bombers contract)
Courtenay Dempsey (del)
Yestin Eades (del)
Shaun Edwards (del)
Nathan Grima (del)
Sam Grimley (del)
James Gwilt (del)
Will Hams (del)
James Kelly (del) (Top-Up player. Expected to be offered a new Bombers contract)
Nick Kommer (del)
Sam Michael (del)
Gach Nyuon (del)
James Polkinghorne (del)
Jonathan Simpkin (del)
Tom Wallis (del)
Fremantle:
Michael Barlow (del)
Matt de Boer (del)
Josh Deluca (del)
Brady Grey (del)
Jack Hannath (del) (Linked to Hawthorn)
Sean Hurley (del)
Anthony Morabito (del)
Tendai Mzungu (del)
Clancee Pearce (del)
Alex Silvagni (del) (Linked to Collingwood)
Tanner Smith (del)
Geelong:
Zac Bates (del)
Mitch Clark (del)
Jock Cornell (del)
Cameron Delaney (del)
Padraig Lucey (del)
Michael Luxford (del)
Tom Read (del)
Gold Coast:
Keegan Brooksby (del)
Clay Cameron (del)
Tom Keough (del)
Cameron Loersch (del)
Luke Russell (del)
Henry Schade (del)
Danny Stanley (del)
Seb Tape (del)
GWS:
Nil.
Hawthorn:
Jack Fitzpatrick (del)
Lachlan Langford (del)
Angus Litherland (del)
Jermaine Miller-Lewis (del)
Matt Spangher (del)
Zac Webster (del)
Alex Woodward (del)
Melbourne:
Chris Dawes (del)
Jack Grimes (del)
Matt Jones (del)
Max King (del)
Viv Michie (del)
Ben Newton (del)
Dean Terlich (del)
North Melb:
Nick Dal Santo (del) (Linked to Collingwood)
Robin Nahas (del)
Brad McKenzie (del)
Drew Petrie (del) (Linked to West Coast)
Joel Tippett (del)
Port Adel:
John Butcher (del)
Sam Colquhoun (del)
Kane Mitchell (del)
Jay Schulz (del)
Paul Stewart (del)
Richmond:
Adam Marcon (del)
Liam McBean (del)
Andrew Moore (del)
St Kilda:
Tom Curren (del)
Luke Delaney (del)
Tom Lee (del)
Brodie Murdoch (del)
Brenton Payne (del)
Josh Saunders (del)
Cameron Shenton (del)
Eli Templeton (del)
Sydney:
Abaina Davis (del)
Kyle Galloway (del)
Jack Hiscox (del)
Xavier Richards (del)
West Coast:
Corey Adamson (del)
Brant Colledge (del)
Kane Lucas (del)
Alec Waterman (del)
Bulldogs:
Luke Goetz (del)
Josh Prudden (del)
Will Minson (del)
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Presti35
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^^ RE: The unsigned Free Agents:
Ricky Henderson was officially delisted by Adelaide. He remains linked to some Victorian clubs.
Jarryd Blair is still on our list. But he has not yet signed a deal. Is it still possible he may end up elsewhere?
Zac Clarke is still expected to remain with Freo on a 3 year deal but has not signed it yet. West Coast couldn't, could they??
Tom Lonergan will sign a one year deal with Geelong.
Sam Fisher has officially retired.
Mitch Brown was officially delisted by West Coast and is expected to find a home in Victoria. Wonder who it'll be?
Sam Butler signed a new deal to remain with the Eagles.
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Minson and Richards please.
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
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Updated (1st November)
REMAINING UNSIGNED FREE AGENTS:
(Not officially delisted or re-signed by their club yet)
Collingwood
Jarryd Blair (Still up in the air??)
Fremantle
Zac Clarke (Expected to remain with Freo on a 3 year deal)
Thats it. Just the two. I believe that both can still sign on elsewhere.
DE-LISTED FREE AGENTS:
Adelaide:
Ricky Henderson (Linked to several Vic clubs)
Luke Lowden
Keenan Ramsey
Brisbane:
Hugh Beasley
Billy Evans
Josh Green (Linked to Essendon)
Josh McGuinness
Jackson Paine
Josh Watts
Carlton:
Matthew Dick
Andrejs Everitt
Jayden Foster
Andrew Gallucci
Billy Gowers
Clem Smith
Jason Tutt
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Mark Whiley
Collingwood:
Tim Golds
Matthew Goodyear
Darrean Wyatt
Essendon:
Jason Ashby
Ryan Crowley
Matt Dea (Top-Up player. Expected to be offered a new Bombers contract)
Courtenay Dempsey (Linked to Gold Coast)
Yestin Eades
Shaun Edwards
Nathan Grima
Sam Grimley
James Gwilt
Will Hams
James Kelly (Top-Up player. Expected to be offered a new Bombers contract)
Nick Kommer
Sam Michael
Gach Nyuon
James Polkinghorne
Jonathan Simpkin
Tom Wallis
Fremantle:
Michael Barlow (Linked to several Vic clubs)
Matt de Boer
Josh Deluca
Brady Grey
Jack Hannath (Linked to Hawthorn)
Sean Hurley
Anthony Morabito
Tendai Mzungu
Clancee Pearce
Alex Silvagni (Linked to Collingwood)
Tanner Smith
Geelong:
Zac Bates
Mitch Clark (West Coast link??)
Jock Cornell
Cameron Delaney
Padraig Lucey
Michael Luxford
Tom Read
Gold Coast:
Keegan Brooksby
Clay Cameron
Tom Keough
Cameron Loersch
Luke Russell
Henry Schade
Danny Stanley
Seb Tape
GWS:
Nil.
Hawthorn:
Jack Fitzpatrick
Lachlan Langford
Angus Litherland
Jermaine Miller-Lewis
Matt Spangher
Zac Webster
Alex Woodward
Melbourne:
Chris Dawes
Jack Grimes
Matt Jones
Max King
Viv Michie
Ben Newton
Dean Terlich
North Melb:
Nick Dal Santo (Linked to Collingwood)
Robin Nahas (Linked to Lela Stars next film)
Brad McKenzie
Drew Petrie (Linked to West Coast)
Joel Tippett
Port Adel:
John Butcher
Sam Colquhoun
Kane Mitchell
Jay Schulz
Paul Stewart
Richmond:
Adam Marcon
Liam McBean
Andrew Moore
St Kilda:
Tom Curren
Luke Delaney
Tom Lee
Brodie Murdoch
Brenton Payne
Josh Saunders
Cameron Shenton
Eli Templeton
Sydney:
Abaina Davis
Kyle Galloway
Jack Hiscox
Xavier Richards
West Coast:
Corey Adamson
Mitch Brown
Brant Colledge
Kane Lucas
Alec Waterman
Bulldogs:
Luke Goetz
Josh Prudden
Will Minson (Linked to West Coast)
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Number 35
Joined: 17 Apr 2016
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Barlow mzungu and everrit..... We would be ready for war
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Number 35
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Maybe butler instead of mzungu
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