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Redlight
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | | Only possible positive here is: Boomer's 2016 was definitely good enough to be on our list, he was at times the Roos best or most damaging player. It's difficult to see it happening again in 2017, though I would have said the same after around 2012-2013 and every year after. |
Boomer's 2016 was better than our Cloke, Toovey, Macaffer, Williams, Brown, Goodyear and Langdon, but I still don't want him on our list. The great man should retire as a one club player. If he wants to come to Collingwood in a mentoring role that's another story. For the moment, Wells and Mayne are good pickups which will cost us only their salaries. For North supporters next year watching Boomer in Collingwood colours is like Collingwood supporters watching Peter MacKenna in Carlton colours. It didn't work out for MacKenna and it won't work for Boomer. |
It worked for Ball and Jolly. It worked for Stevie J. There is no single possibe outcome.
A one year contract and one year option sounds like a good idea to me. If he falls off the cliff in terms of performance our exposure is limited.
It may not make sense for North to keep him given their age profile, it's a different story for us though. |
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Cam 
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Caff is 28
Toovs is 29
Insert Wells
Bally is 32
Insert Dal Santo
Dids is 33
Maxy is 33
Jolls is 34
Leroy is 34
Medders is 34
Benny J is 35
Tarks is 36
Tazza is 36
Cheesy O'Bree is 37
Insert Boomer
Licca is 38
Kinda puts it all into perspective doesn't it :/
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| Redlight wrote: | | BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | | Only possible positive here is: Boomer's 2016 was definitely good enough to be on our list, he was at times the Roos best or most damaging player. It's difficult to see it happening again in 2017, though I would have said the same after around 2012-2013 and every year after. |
Boomer's 2016 was better than our Cloke, Toovey, Macaffer, Williams, Brown, Goodyear and Langdon, but I still don't want him on our list. The great man should retire as a one club player. If he wants to come to Collingwood in a mentoring role that's another story. For the moment, Wells and Mayne are good pickups which will cost us only their salaries. For North supporters next year watching Boomer in Collingwood colours is like Collingwood supporters watching Peter MacKenna in Carlton colours. It didn't work out for MacKenna and it won't work for Boomer. |
It worked for Ball and Jolly. It worked for Stevie J. There is no single possibe outcome.
A one year contract and one year option sounds like a good idea to me. If he falls off the cliff in terms of performance our exposure is limited.
It may not make sense for North to keep him given their age profile, it's a different story for us though. |
Let's get real here and take off your rose coloured glasses with Stevie J. He clouted a guy in his semifinal and messed up GWS with their preparation for their preliminary final. It might have ended up a fairytale with GWS making the GF and Stevie J kicking the winning goal against Sydney in the GF. Fairytales rarely come true. And as for your comment about Ball and Jolly, they are totally different circumstances. They were both 10 years younger. Jolly was returning to Melbourne for family reasons, while Ball had a falling out with Ross Lyon. |
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Piesnchess
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^ the big rumour is that after the giants loss, a very angry stevie J stormed into the giants coaches box, and blasted hell out of leon Cameron, regarding no giants player realising that clay smith is a great left foot kick, and letting him get easy harmful kicks, that cost the game. That's the big rumour doing the rounds, sounds like stevie j could have been a very disrupting influence on our team, if true.
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Cam
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I thought the rumour was that Cameron went all Denis Pagan on Stevie telling him it was his fault they didn't make it, that he let the team down with his stupid actions the week before etc
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stui magpie 
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| Cam wrote: | Caff is 28
Toovs is 29
Insert Wells
Bally is 32
Insert Dal Santo
Dids is 33
Maxy is 33
Jolls is 34
Leroy is 34
Medders is 34
Benny J is 35
Tarks is 36
Tazza is 36
Cheesy O'Bree is 37
Insert Boomer
Licca is 38
Kinda puts it all into perspective doesn't it :/ |
Apparently we're in need of a key back. Dustin Fletcher is available.
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | Boomer's 2016 was better than our Cloke, Toovey, Macaffer, Williams, Brown, Goodyear and Langdon, but I still don't want him on our list. The great man should retire as a one club player. If he wants to come to Collingwood in a mentoring role that's another story. For the moment, Wells and Mayne are good pickups which will cost us only their salaries. For North supporters next year watching Boomer in Collingwood colours is like Collingwood supporters watching Peter MacKenna in Carlton colours. It didn't work out for MacKenna and it won't work for Boomer. |
| redlight wrote: | It worked for Ball and Jolly. It worked for Stevie J. There is no single possible outcome.
A one year contract and one year option sounds like a good idea to me. If he falls off the cliff in terms of performance our exposure is limited.
It may not make sense for North to keep him given their age profile, it's a different story for us though. |
| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | Let's get real here and take off your rose coloured glasses with Stevie J. He clouted a guy in his semifinal and messed up GWS with their preparation for their preliminary final. It might have ended up a fairytale with GWS making the GF and Stevie J kicking the winning goal against Sydney in the GF. Fairytales rarely come true. And as for your comment about Ball and Jolly, they are totally different circumstances. They were both 10 years younger. Jolly was returning to Melbourne for family reasons, while Ball had a falling out with Ross Lyon. |
Stevie J has been great for GWS, no rose coloured glasses required. Downplaying his impact this year is silly.
Ball and Jolly both came to us with only a few years of useful footy left. Jolly was 29 in 2010, so no spring chicken. They were proven performers and filled holes in our list. Exactly what Boomer can do for us. He's old sure, but he's also a freak.
Worth the risk.
I couldn't give a stuff about his 'one club' legacy if his second club is Collingwood. |
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stui magpie
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According to 7 news, we've spoken to Boomer about an asst coaching role but have no plans for him to be a player
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| stui magpie wrote: | | According to 7 news, we've spoken to Boomer about an asst coaching role but have no plans for him to be a player |
I saw that. It looks like we're the victim of baseless speculation.
Bloody off-season.
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The Prototype 
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London Dave 
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| The errors he gets away with because he's a Roo legend would be magnified in B&W. Pass. |
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HAL
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inxs88
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| Redlight wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | According to 7 news, we've spoken to Boomer about an asst coaching role but have no plans for him to be a player |
I saw that. It looks like we're the victim of baseless speculation.
Bloody off-season.
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No it is fact that the Pies have made the offer and Brent is deliberating over his historic love for being a Kangaroos player and donning the Guernsey of another AFL team. He likes Bucks and is impressed with the offer of:
* 1 year playing
* a 2nd form pending OR
* a move into Assistant Coaching
So all of these know all journos whom are "jumping to the conclusion" are missing the very essence of the discussion and that he is "considering the deal". He has 6 weeks to decide and is going to use as much of that time to evaluate. In sales speak he is "impulsed though".
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Presti35
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| The Prototype wrote: | | Sam McClure claims that all the talk about Boomer at Collingwood is 100 percent wrong and he won't be there. |
Then we can wait for someone to get stuck into us about how we missed out on another player...  
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CarringbushCigar 
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| inxs88 wrote: | | Redlight wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | | According to 7 news, we've spoken to Boomer about an asst coaching role but have no plans for him to be a player |
I saw that. It looks like we're the victim of baseless speculation.
Bloody off-season.
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No it is fact that the Pies have made the offer and Brent is deliberating over his historic love for being a Kangaroos player and donning the Guernsey of another AFL team. He likes Bucks and is impressed with the offer of:
* 1 year playing
* a 2nd form pending OR
* a move into Assistant Coaching
So all of these know all journos whom are "jumping to the conclusion" are missing the very essence of the discussion and that he is "considering the deal". He has 6 weeks to decide and is going to use as much of that time to evaluate. In sales speak he is "impulsed though". |
Ill back inxs88's mail 100% here.
I hope for Collingwood, for North and for Boomer that he does the classy thing and hangs em up.
If he truly has ambitions of coaching then he should choose that path independently of his playing desires.
Our offer is still bewildering to me from a Collingwood viewpoint. |
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