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thompsoc
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| gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
What a wonderful summary.
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thompsoc
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| gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
Go back to our 2010 gf team.
Name the players who were stars that year!
More stars that year than handy players!
And who won the flag?
I have banged on about the lack of stars or A graders for a while now
In regards to our recruiting.
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we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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HAL
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
I'd add a 3rd group, developing prospects. I think this is our largest cohort. What we need is for a healthy number of these to become stars and the remainder handy players worth retaining. |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| jackcass wrote: | | gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
I'd add a 3rd group, developing prospects. I think this is our largest cohort. What we need is for a healthy number of these to become stars and the remainder handy players worth retaining. |
There was an old wrestler called Larry O'Dea who Jack Little always called the up and coming star Larry O'Dea!
He never made it!
A bit like your 3rd group...it is irrelevant to what gurugeoff was saying.
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we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| thompsoc wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
I'd add a 3rd group, developing prospects. I think this is our largest cohort. What we need is for a healthy number of these to become stars and the remainder handy players worth retaining. |
There was an old wrestler called Larry O'Dea who Jack Little always called the up and coming star Larry O'Dea!
He never made it!
A bit like your 3rd group...it is irrelevant to what gurugeoff was saying. |
Of course he never made it....up against Killer Karl Cox, Spiros Arios, Mario Milano and Tex McKenzie, he never had a chance.  |
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
I'd add a 3rd group, developing prospects. I think this is our largest cohort. What we need is for a healthy number of these to become stars and the remainder handy players worth retaining. |
There was an old wrestler called Larry O'Dea who Jack Little always called the up and coming star Larry O'Dea!
He never made it!
A bit like your 3rd group...it is irrelevant to what gurugeoff was saying. |
Of course he never made it....up against Killer Karl Cox, Spiros Arios, Mario Milano and Tex McKenzie, he never had a chance. |
Wasted saturday arvo watching the wrestling like me Rudeboy.
I thought it was saturday arvo?
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we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest. |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
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| thompsoc wrote: | | gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
Go back to our 2010 gf team.
Name the players who were stars that year!
More stars that year than handy players!
And who won the flag?
I have banged on about the lack of stars or A graders for a while now
In regards to our recruiting. |
Interesting point. I'd make an argument that our last 2 premierships were won on the basis of team effort, not stars.
We had players who played really well, no doubt. How many were actually elite players at that stage?
Didak, Swan, Pendlebury and Harry O made the All Aus team that year.
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| stui magpie wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
Go back to our 2010 gf team.
Name the players who were stars that year!
More stars that year than handy players!
And who won the flag?
I have banged on about the lack of stars or A graders for a while now
In regards to our recruiting. |
Interesting point. I'd make an argument that our last 2 premierships were won on the basis of team effort, not stars.
We had players who played really well, no doubt. How many were actually elite players at that stage?
Didak, Swan, Pendlebury and Harry O made the All Aus team that year. |
I'd add Cloke and Thomas, who were both elite that year. H Shaw and Sidebottom (who I'd have given the Smith medal in 2010) were on the rise toward that status as well.
It was a more than a good handy team, that 2010 and 2011 team ; there was a lot of individual brilliance.
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Neil Appleby 
Joined: 11 Feb 1998
Location: Melbourne
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| inxs88 wrote: | http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-ceo-gary-pert-predicts-pie-flag-within-three-years-20140314-hviw8.html
It was actually 2014 and was prior to the opening round of the year so your 2 years amiss with your point of view. Big error. That aside the world is full of companies, governments and sporting codes (Peter Schwab 2004 anybody?) whom espouse good intentions and ambitious platitudes and the Pies are no different.
Did such prognostications take account for the curse of Davoren, the Beams transfer and many other external factors?? Not really. |
Big error perhaps if I were a journo but here, hardly. BTW Pert has made the pronouncement twice, which was my point.
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After the epic draw comes the decisive knockout!
Collingwood rules the world again and Mick Malthouse fulfils his destiny with the twenty ten premiership and can you hear the people sing! |
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woftam
I used to be undecided, but now I'm not so sure.
Joined: 28 Jul 2008
Location: Carum Downs, Vic
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | gurugeoff wrote: | in the end, the number of 'handy types' on your list must not exceed the number of really top players. Every player playing league football is a handy type. You see your own club every week and start getting an inflated view of your own 'handy types'.
In a nutshell, we have too many handy types, and not enough stars. |
I'd add a 3rd group, developing prospects. I think this is our largest cohort. What we need is for a healthy number of these to become stars and the remainder handy players worth retaining. |
There was an old wrestler called Larry O'Dea who Jack Little always called the up and coming star Larry O'Dea!
He never made it!
A bit like your 3rd group...it is irrelevant to what gurugeoff was saying. |
Of course he never made it....up against Killer Karl Cox, Spiros Arios, Mario Milano and Tex McKenzie, he never had a chance. |
Your forgetting Brute Barnard, Abdullah the butcher & Bulldog Brower.  |
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